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CRO Youth NTs ("U21", "U19" and "U17")

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HajdukSplit
May 15th, 2006, 03:01
Bilic has said that during the qualifiers he will call up some of the U19 players and drop the "older" players who aren't performing well for their clubs (this probably means Cale, Vucko)

Tony K.
May 15th, 2006, 18:29
Croatia geared up for Group 5 task

Croatia's hopes of qualifying for the 2005/06 UEFA European Under-19 Championship for the first time have suffered a significant setback as they prepare to welcome Israel, Portugal and F.Y.R. Macedonia in Elite round Group 5.

Tadic ruled out
Ivica Grnja's side reached this stage for the third successive season after remaining unbeaten against Bulgaria, Iceland and Bosnia-Herzegovina to win Group 11 in the qualifying round. One of Croatia's best players, Bayer 04 Leverkusen forward Josip Tadic – already an U21 international – will miss his side's bid to reach this summer's final tournament in Poland having broken his collarbone. "It's a really big blow for our team, he was our key player and now we must go for a younger replacement," said Grnja.

Grnja apprehension
Grnja, whose side won two of a three-match series against Hungary in February before playing Slovenia in March, losing 1-0 on home soil and winning the reverse fixture by the same scoreline. Despite that, the Croatia coach believes his side are outsiders, saying: "Portugal are definitely the favourites but Israel also have a solid team and F.Y.R. Macedonia recently defeated Bulgaria 3-0 so that should be a warning for us. Our key players should be midfielder Anas Sharbini and forward Nikola Kalinic, although both are in the senior squads at their clubs so might be lacking in match practice."

Dinis confidence
For his part, Portugal coach Carlos Dinis has based his squad around FC Porto and Sporting Clube de Portugal players, with the former providing seven members and the latter six. Portugal prepared for the mini-tournament in Croatia with victory in the XXIV Porto International Tournament in April, defeating China (5-1), Norway (4-1) and Canada (1-0) with midfielder Bruno Gama and goalkeeper Igor Araújo both catching the eye. "This tournament was important for our growth as a team," said Dinis. "We are even more confident and improved both in defence and attack. We are very positive about the future."

Israeli perfection
Israel reached the Elite round with a 100 per cent record, defeating Cyprus, Malta and Norway to claim first place in Group 4 with Maccabi Haifa FC starlet Maor Bar Buzaglo leading the way. Although a number of the squad have since been required to participate in national service, Israel have at least recorded 1-0 victories against Serbia and Montenegro and Northern Ireland in 2006, although another match with the Northern Irish ended in a 2-1 defeat while Slovakia earned two 1-0 wins in February. However, the side received a welcome boost with the news that Hapoel Petach-Tikva FC's Nigerian-born striker Toto Adurans Tamuz Temile, who scored eleven goals in 23 league appearances this season, has been granted permission to represent Israel.

Macedonian nerve
F.Y.R. Macedonia, meanwhile, squeezed into the second round having finished as runners-up in Group 9 after a three-way tie with Turkey and Romania on five points. Ilco Gjorgjioski's team last reached this stage two seasons ago and, having lost two of their three games on that occasion, will hope for better fortune this time round. Zoran Zlatkovski scored three times in the qualifying round while a recovery from 2-0 down to snatch a draw in their final fixture against Turkey, which ultimately secured their progress, showed the fighting spirit in the team.

Tony K.
May 16th, 2006, 19:53
U-19s:

CROATIA - MACEDONIA 2-2 (0-2)

ISRAEL - PORTUGAL 1-0

Ilija Sivonjić and Nikola Kalinić scored for us!

Makedonec
May 16th, 2006, 21:04
U-19s:

CROATIA - MACEDONIA 2-2 (0-2)

ISRAEL - PORTUGAL 1-0

Ilija Sivonjić and Nikola Kalinić scored for us!


Thanks Tony. I dont know what to say about the result. You ask me this morning if I would have been happy with 2-2 I would have said yes but now after reading the story I am :mad: Only the first place team goes right?
PS: I would take this score when our A teams meet in Zagreb:howler:

dinamovac11
May 17th, 2006, 02:32
Bilic has said that during the qualifiers he will call up some of the U19 players and drop the "older" players who aren't performing well for their clubs (this probably means Cale, Vucko)

Cale not performing well? Sure he may not be among dinamo's best, but he has done his job pretty well.

He should be one of the first on the team sheet. Especially if Bilic is going to play 4 at the back.

One player who has started to do really well is Dinjar from Osijek. I am suprised he is not there. Unless I am blind.

Tony K.
May 17th, 2006, 18:09
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/Under19/FixturesResults/Round=2225/Match=82150/Report=LU.html

Ambis
May 17th, 2006, 20:31
Anyone know if they are showing any of these games on TV?

HajdukSplit
May 17th, 2006, 20:38
nope, not even on the radio, not even sites like Vecernji or spornet had the result

Dalmatinka
May 18th, 2006, 16:59
Hey, does anyone know where the finale will be played?
p.s. I´m really sad about the results of the game against Macedonia, thought we could beat them.. well, wish the best for the game today, cross my fingers for the guys..

HajdukSplit
May 18th, 2006, 20:35
Shame, this generation most likely will not qualify but it was a difficult group, they lose today to Portugal, 2:1

Croatia - Portugal 1:2
Macedonia - Israel 0:0

1. Israel 4
2. Portugal 3
3. Macedonia 2
4. Croatia 1

If Croatia can beat Israel and the other game ends in a draw, there would be three teams with 4 points but probably Croatia wouldn't have any of the tiebreakers in their favor :o

Makedonec
May 18th, 2006, 20:44
Go Croatia you have our full support to win the last game.

Tony K.
May 18th, 2006, 21:53
Ako ne pobijedimo skupinu, posljenji put sam na ovome forumu! :strong::stuckup::hopefull:

Zono
May 18th, 2006, 22:33
zasto tony?

al da barem pobijedimo israel stvar bi bila bolja,
a opet, sa grnjom, i ovaj bod je vec puno :rollani:

Tony K.
May 18th, 2006, 22:55
poznajem ovu ekipu, svi decki su velika klasa, nisu zasluzili takvih rezultata! Nemaju srjece na pripremama su otpli Tadic, Bodul, Jusufi i pred samog pocetka tekme s Makedoncima povrijedio se Landeka, je.bi ga na sta to cini?

Zono
May 18th, 2006, 23:05
al evo, ti ga poznas,
pa nije grnja fakat veliki neznalica nogometa?

mislim covjek stvarno se pita kako hns moze staviti takve neznalce na tako vaznim funkcijama!

Tony K.
May 18th, 2006, 23:21
Jest upravo si u HNS ima puno boljih trenera od njega, kao np Bilica i Gudelja! Ali sta se moze tako je to u Hrvatskoj, tu mozes dobis sve ako imas veze i tako se drvi na mjestu izbornika! Jedno je ucinijo dobro! Pozvao je nasih najbojih igraca iz Hrvatske i izvan nje, ali protiv povreda nemozes nista!

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ali jos uvijek vjerujem u nasu pobijedu pa cu u subotu bit na tekmi protiv Israela!

Zono
May 18th, 2006, 23:29
eh,
pa svi moramo vjerovat u to! :thumbsup:
navijaj i za nas!

Tony K.
May 18th, 2006, 23:32
navijaj i? za nas!

pa naravno za nas!

Zono
May 18th, 2006, 23:42
mislim, za nas u inozemstvu :D

HajdukSplit
May 19th, 2006, 22:52
The U21's lost 1:0 to France, Bartulovic was the best player. Croatia used a 4-4-2 :eek, very rare in Croatia soccer

Subasic
Mujdza - Corluka - Vucko - Cale
Jertec - Pokrivac - Brkljaca - Bartulovic
Rivic - Sharbini

SUBS - Vrucina for Brkljaca (46)
- Busic for Sharbini (46)
- Lozo for Rivic (60)
- Parlov for Bartulovic (75)
- Labudovic for Vucko (80)

Zono
May 19th, 2006, 22:55
but they played very well, also french media had nice words for how we played,
of course, busic wasted a goal from 5 m

who is exiting from the team? Sharbini, Cale, Vrucina?

btw, Vucko have no place at the moment in this team, when vukman returns at least

HajdukSplit
May 20th, 2006, 21:12
Vucko I hear isn't even playing at Saturn, surprising he is still called up. I feel Vrucina also might be dropped, I'm not really hyped up about him

HajdukSplit
May 20th, 2006, 21:14
The U19's were able to win their final game, 2:0 over Israel and salvage 2nd place, Portugal qualify

Croatia - Israel 2:0
Macedonia - Portugal 1:3

1. Portugal 3 2 0 1 5:3 6
2. Croatia 3 1 1 1 5:4 4
3. Israel 3 1 1 1 1:2 4
4. Macedonia 3 0 2 1 3:5 2

Pretty disappointing but Portugal always have a tough youth teams. The names on the Croatian team are pretty good, hopefully some can step up at the next level

Tony K.
May 21st, 2006, 00:25
So I am back from the game, our boys dominated them all the way, dont know how Israel were able to win their game against Portugal? We were in for few minutes but then again... shi..t

HajdukSplit
July 14th, 2006, 00:24
The U21's will play two friendly matches before the start of the UEFA 2007 U21 Championship qualifiers. They will play friendlies against Italy and in early August against BiH in Kostrena.

The U21's first qualifier will be on September 3 against Bulgaria in Sofia and sometime in October they play Ukraine in Kantrida, but with no fans

they finally choose a real stadium, Velika Gorica's was a joke

Tony K.
July 21st, 2006, 20:50
Croatian U-21 for BiH:

Danijel Subasic (NK Zadar)
Marko Simic (Croatia Sesvete)
Mensur Mujdza (NK Zagreb)
Tomislav Labudovic (NK Zagreb)
Igor Lozo (Pula Staro Cesko)
Neven Vukman (NK Varteks)
Luka Vucko (HNK Hajduk)
Nikola Pokrivac (NK Varteks)
Davor Bagaric (Cibalia Vinkovci)
Mladen Bartulovic (Dnjipro)
Dario Jertec (NK Varteks)
Filip Marcic (HNK Hajduk)
Mario Brkljaca (NK Zagreb)
Ahmad Sharbini (NK Rijeka)
Bojan Vrucina (NK Slaven Belupo)
Tomislav Busic (HNK Hajduk)
Stiven Rivic (Energie Cottbus)
Mario Mandzukic (NK Zagreb)
Josip Tadic (Bayer 04 Leverkusen)
Marko Dinjar (NK Osijek)

HajdukSplit
July 21st, 2006, 22:22
nice team, not many changes from last year, only concerns on the goalkeepers, both 2.HNL players

MaidenMadness
July 21st, 2006, 22:25
wait that igor lozo is he on loan at pula or has hajduk sold him?

Tony K.
July 21st, 2006, 22:57
Ne, ne on nije vise igrac Hajduka! Lozo je u sijecanju raskinuo ugovor s Poljudom, te napustio Split bez odstete! Ali nesto me cudi Bilic je najavio da ce na popis stavit Ivu Ilicevica iz Bundeslige!? i zasto nema igraca iz Dinama? :confused: Loncaric je poreden, ali di su Cale ili Corluka?

HajdukSplit
July 21st, 2006, 23:29
Cale and Corluka might be in the "A" team plans?

Tony K.
July 21st, 2006, 23:37
But both should be with the team against Ukraine and Bulgaria!!!!!!!!!!!

Orkan_Dugi Rat
July 22nd, 2006, 00:01
If Cale gets called for our "A" team I might throw up.....:yuck: :thmbdown:

50 Lipa
July 22nd, 2006, 01:10
he can't be worse than Pranjic :howler:

HajdukSplit
July 27th, 2006, 02:17
Dinamo won't have any players for the U21's against BiH because the match against Ekranas is on the same day.

Bilic says he would like to manage this game against BiH but he hopes that a replacement in found soon.

Marijan Vlak is the favorite for the U21 job, Jarni is also another name that I've heard

HajdukSplit
July 27th, 2006, 21:34
Full list of candidates:
- Marijan Vlak (heavy favorite)
- Robert Jarni
- Martin Novoselac
- Krunoslav Jurcic
- Zlatko Dalic

Novoselac is the best option, under him our youth teams did the best and it's best he takes control of all the youth teams. Dalic also wouldn't be terrible, he is used to coaching young teams and was successful with Varteks (not in Europe)

Tony K.
August 1st, 2006, 18:49
Hrvatska Reprezentacija do 17. gonina (U-17) u Mađarskoj

Nakon uspješno odrađenog sedmodnevnog kampa HNS-a, izabrana kadetska vrsta (U-17) predvođena izbornikom Ivanom Gudeljem odlazi danas u Mađarsku, gdje će u okolici Budimpešte sudjelovati na međunarodnom turniru » Zlatno klasje«. Hrvatska je bila i pobjednikom ovog turnira, lani je pak u finalu nakon 2:2 izgubila pehar protiv vršnjaka Češke nakon jedanaesteraca.

Riječ je o novoj generaciji kadeta, rođenih 1990. godine, koja s optimizmom dočekuje predstojeće oglede 2. kolovoza sa Slovačkom,
zatim s boljim ili poraženim iz utakmice Izrael – Mađarska.
Češka, Poljska, Irska i Srbija čine drugu skupinu.
Izbornik Ivan Gudelj pozvao je:

Damir Bošnjak (Dinamo)
Ivan Herceg (Dinamo)
Mario Jokić (Dinamo)
Mihael Pazman (Dinamo)
Davor Rogač (Dinamo)
Hrvoje Šikić (Dinamo)
Domagoj Francetić (Dinamo)
Duje Čop (Hajduk)
Goran Jozinović (Hajduk)
Saša Dreven (Varteks)
Matija Katanc (Varteks)
Marijo Sačer (Varteks)
Dino Škvorc (Varteks)
Franjo Tepurić (Slaven Belupo)
Aburahmin Besart (NK Zagreb)
Lovre Šćrbec (NK Zagreb)
Daniel Bešić (Koper, Slo)
Ivan Jukić (Kaiserslautern, Nje)

»Klasje« završava 5. kolovoza, dan kasnije naši putuju na prestižni »Toyota Cup« u Japan gdje će boraviti do 15. ovog mjeseca.

HajdukSplit
August 1st, 2006, 19:01
wow I'm getting old, these guys were born in the 90's :pp

Kralj
August 1st, 2006, 19:23
is Ivan Jukic german born or ?

Tony K.
August 1st, 2006, 19:41
Damir Bošnjak (Dinamo)
Ivan Herceg (Dinamo)
Mario Jokić (Dinamo)
Mihael Pazman (Dinamo) -> born in Croatia, dual citizenship AUS/CRO
Davor Rogač (Dinamo)
Hrvoje Šikić (Dinamo) son of Dinamo´s juniors coach
Domagoj Francetić (Dinamo) born in BiH
Duje Čop (Hajduk) je na probi u Bochumu!
Goran Jozinović (Hajduk)
Saša Dreven (Varteks)
Matija Katanc (Varteks)
Marijo Sačer (Varteks)
Dino Škvorc (Varteks)
Franjo Tepurić (Slaven Belupo) -> Born in Jajce/BiH, scored five goal for Belupo´s first team in a friendly against Factor Ljubljana, SLO!
Aburahmin Besart (NK Zagreb) -> Bosanac
Lovre Šćrbec (NK Zagreb)
Daniel Bešić (Koper, Slo) -> born in Slovenia
Ivan Jukić (Kaiserslautern, Nje) -> German born

svi drugi su rodeni u HR!

Kralj
August 1st, 2006, 19:51
thanks tony . is there any specfic playe rof these that stand otu to you ? im assuming youve seen these guys more than i have

HajdukSplit
August 1st, 2006, 20:16
the Croatia U21's beat BIH U21's 4:1 in Kostrena. This was the final match which Bilic will lead the U21s, good win

JureM
August 1st, 2006, 20:22
Call me crazy but, I think Ivan Gudelj is doing a great job with identifying and developing some of the younger talent in the country...its when they get older that the problems start. :) See what happens when you let an Imocan do his thing. :thumbsup:

Kralj
August 1st, 2006, 20:26
the Croatia U21's beat BIH U21's 4:1 in Kostrena. This was the final match which Bilic will lead the U21s, good win
any word on the goal scorers ?

BozniaN
August 1st, 2006, 21:10
1:0 - Busic
2:0 - Busic
3:0 - Vrucina
3:1 - Ibricic/11m
4:1 - Jertec

HajdukSplit
August 1st, 2006, 21:13
Brucin? I guess they mean Vrucina? anyway Busic should be starting for Hajduk, if they don't want to sit Bartolovic then I'd rather have Busic in than Jelavic

BozniaN
August 1st, 2006, 21:15
Yea its probebly Vrucina, will change

JureM
August 1st, 2006, 21:41
I guess they mean Vrucina?


Speaking of Vrucina...it's f.ucking hot over here isn't it?

CroatTommy
August 2nd, 2006, 00:44
+46 celcius here in Toronto with the Humidity, just like Imotski eh Ero/Jure:pp ok maybe minus the humidity over there.

HajdukSplit
August 2nd, 2006, 02:54
some guy on sportnet went to the match, the second goal was from a header by Busic, assisted by Tadic. The next two goals were both good shots from 16-20 out.

Pokrivac, Tadic, Busic and Vucko were the most impressive according to this guy.

HRVATSKA: Subašić, Mujdža, Pokrivač, Bagarić, Ipša, Vučko, Tadić, Brkljača, Bušić, Jertec, Vručina (još su igrali: Šimić, Labudović, Lozo, Marčić, Dinjar, Sharbini i Mandžukić). Izbornik Slaven Bilić

Don't know what the formation was, Bilic usually uses a 4-2-3-1 one but it looks like they had three strikers with three midfielders (who knows :pp )

anyway, their qualifying group is one of the toughest but the squad should improve when the Dinamo players are allowed to play

Ero
August 2nd, 2006, 02:56
hmm, don't know about Imotski, I drive past it in 2 minutes doing 60km/ph

:)

HajdukSplit
August 2nd, 2006, 03:12
Tony K., what do you know about Luka Odak? 17 year old striker playing for Bayern Munich youth teams. Does he play or intend to play for Croatia?

JureM
August 2nd, 2006, 03:37
hmm, don't know about Imotski, I drive past it in 2 minutes doing 60km/ph

:)


You've mistaken it with Grude.:eek:

Ero
August 2nd, 2006, 03:42
Maybe, svako selo isto ;)

Ero
August 2nd, 2006, 03:44
Imotski is a small town in the Dalmatian hinterland, Croatia, population 4,347

wow, that is tiny!

JureM
August 2nd, 2006, 04:04
As we all know...present company excluded (hint hint ERO :smileani: ) Imotski just isn't about the city...its about the entire area...so, a certain poster who hails from the suburbs of Imotski failed to post this part:

total municipality population 10,213

Ero
August 2nd, 2006, 05:50
still, tiny.

In 1991 the municipality of Mostar had a population of 126,066

JureM
August 2nd, 2006, 05:54
I believe you meant the Municipality of Imotski had a population of roughly 136,279.:howler:

Ero
August 2nd, 2006, 06:01
yeah if you count the goats.

coreuptrec
August 2nd, 2006, 17:31
Stop Ragging on Imotski...best part of Croatia!!!

JureM
August 2nd, 2006, 19:10
yeah if you count the goats.


No, I was counting the Mostarci, wait, you're right, I was counting the goats. :eek: :thumbsup: :smileani:

JureM
August 2nd, 2006, 19:11
Stop Ragging on Imotski...best part of Croatia!!!


You tell him!

Ero
August 3rd, 2006, 11:28
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/1d621120-mosstar_JPG.jpg (http://www.slibe.com)

Volim tebe grade rodjeni!!

JureM
August 3rd, 2006, 19:48
Evo Zore, evo dana evo bojne Imocana:

http://www.imotski.hr/images/10025.jpg

JureM
August 3rd, 2006, 20:09
http://www.modrojezero.org/docs/imotski_town/general/PoljePanorama.htm

CroatTommy
August 3rd, 2006, 20:56
Ohhh Ero, Jure put up 2 pictures, you're gonna have to come back with something big:smileani:

rilla_
August 3rd, 2006, 23:55
Ohhh Ero, Jure put up 2 pictures, you're gonna have to come back with something big:smileani:lol best believe he will, ero has a big ass zrinjski ticket :D

Ero
August 4th, 2006, 00:11
nice pics I must admit.

Kroz Imotski, kamioni zure...

JureM
August 4th, 2006, 00:15
nice pics I must admit.

Why thank you.

Kroz Imotski, kamioni zure...

That's because they're running from Hercegovina...especially if those kamioni are carrying BMW's. :thumbsup:

Ero
August 4th, 2006, 02:34
dodjite u hercegovinu, vas auto je vec tamo :)

Ero
August 4th, 2006, 02:35
the biggest high rise in Imotski is some hercegovac's 3 story house :)

JureM
August 4th, 2006, 02:49
the biggest high rise in Imotski is some hercegovac's 3 story house :)


Did he steal that too? :howler:

Ero
August 4th, 2006, 04:40
if he's from Grude or Siroki, chances are...

HajdukSplit
August 8th, 2006, 22:06
According to Jutranji, Drazen Ladic is the new manager of the U21's, kind of a shock as he wasn't one of the three main candidates for the job. His only experience was a coach in Baric's staff

JureM
August 8th, 2006, 22:54
According to Jutranji, Drazen Ladic is the new manager of the U21's, kind of a shock as he wasn't one of the three main candidates for the job. His only experience was a coach in Baric's staff


Don't know if he wanted to job or not, but they should have rehired Novoselac. He did a good job with the U21's when he coached them before he made the jump to Cico's assistant coach.

HajdukSplit
August 8th, 2006, 22:56
Novoselac should be in control of every youth team, he qualified for that FIFA U17 tournament a few years back and the most successful teams were when he was in charge.

JureM
August 8th, 2006, 23:03
Gudelj does a good job with the U17's....he does a good job at finding the talent. I believe he was the coach of that team when they were in the U17 World Cup in Trinidad back in 2001. I was actually going to go and watch but, 9-11 happened and the airports were all shut down.

Novoselac is a very good coach as well for that U21 level. I wonder if he was out of the loop or just didn't want to take the job?

HajdukSplit
August 8th, 2006, 23:07
Novoselac coached that FIFA team, sadly only 3-4 of those guys are actually doing something from that team

JureM
August 8th, 2006, 23:15
You're right...then I think Gudelj was one of the selectors of the U17. I know he had a function with the youth program and that he went down to T&T for the tournament.

HajdukSplit
August 9th, 2006, 20:01
It's official now, Ladic is the new U21 manager. Zlatko Dalic is the asistant manager, the current manager of Varteks

HajdukSplit
August 11th, 2006, 14:19
Ladic announced his squad for the Italy match

Goalkeepers
Danijel Subasic (NK Zadar)
Marko Simic (Croatia Sesvete)

Defenders
Mensur Mujdza (NK Zagreb)
Tomislav Labudovic (NK Zagreb)
Luka Vucko (Hajduk Split)
Igor Lozo (Pula)
Nikola Pokrivac (Varteks)
Kristijan Ipsa (Varteks)

Midfielders
Mladen Bartulovic (Dnipro)
Dario Jertec (Varteks)
Filip Marcic (Hajduk Split)
Davor Bagaric (Cibalia)
Mario Brkljaca (NK Zagreb)
Marko Dinjar (Osijek)

Forwards
Tomislav Busic (Hajduk Split)
Ahmad Sharbini (Rijeka)
Bojan Vrucina (Slaven Belupo)
Stiven Rivic (Energie Cottbus)
Mario Mandzukic (NK Zagreb)
Josip Tadic (Bayer Leverkusen)

the squad is weakened because of the young players Bilic called up to the NT like Corluka, Cale. They will play three tough games

HajdukSplit
August 11th, 2006, 14:22
the new U17 manager is Robert Jarni. 3/4 of the national teams are now lead by a member of the '98 team ;)

HajdukSplit
August 11th, 2006, 17:10
although he didn't get the U21 job, Martin Novoselac is now the director of all the youth teams, good move

HajdukSplit
August 13th, 2006, 16:40
Marcic and Bagaric are out injured, replacing them are Papa (Varteks) and J. Buljat (Hajduk)

Tony K.
August 14th, 2006, 23:16
Oliver Bozanic (Central Coast) dobio pozivnicu za pripremni Camp reprezentacije Hrvatske do 19 godina, koji se odrzava u runju!

HajdukSplit
August 15th, 2006, 00:13
how come they don't look in Canada or USA, I'm sure there are some here

croatian batman
August 15th, 2006, 02:30
how come they don't look in Canada or USA, I'm sure there are some here

They come to NA for their hockey and baseball needs. :howler:

HajdukSplit
August 15th, 2006, 02:45
which they do but there is probably some soccer talent here, maybe they just don't care which is why they never come here, they only go to Australia for that club tournament

HajdukSplit
August 15th, 2006, 21:58
0:0 at halftime, Croatia hit the crossbar too

croatian batman
August 15th, 2006, 23:06
A fair result 0:0

First Half it was basically all Croatia, 2nd half it was all Italy. I thought Rivic was very good. Had a few chances, should've done better though with them. Subasic the GK played a solid game. Vucko was OK (gets in trouble when he holds onto the ball though). And everyone is right aboput Bartulovic he just can't cross. He gets so much air under his crosses.:rollani:

For you US fans. Too bad we didn't get Rossi. He's a wonderful player. He came on in the 2nd half and was by far the best Italian player.

HajdukSplit
August 15th, 2006, 23:08
Subasic should sign for Hajduk, no reason why he should be in the 2.HNL. Who hit the post in the first half? I don't have RAI International, maybe they'll show the highlights on the Italian news

croatian batman
August 15th, 2006, 23:10
Dinjar I believe hit the post.

Blast
August 16th, 2006, 00:01
the new U17 manager is Robert Jarni. 3/4 of the national teams are now lead by a member of the '98 team ;)

They are starting a revolution... I like it so far!!

JureM
August 16th, 2006, 00:15
They are starting a revolution... I like it so far!!

As long as they don't get corrupted this is how its supposed to be.

Ante
August 16th, 2006, 00:32
We just need Zvone involved to make it complete.:thumbsup:

Carson35
August 16th, 2006, 07:02
U-21: Casiraghi debut goalless Tuesday 15 August, 2006

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Pierluigi Casiraghi’s debut on the Under-21 bench was a disappointing 0-0 draw against Croatia, but Giuseppe Rossi impressed.

The new Coach, replacing 1982 World Cup winner Claudio Gentile and with Gianfranco Zola as an assistant manager, caused controversy upon their appointment due to a lack of experience.

Croatia had the better of the first half and threatened with Rivic before creating the best scoring opportunity of the match in Grosseto.

Dinjar spotted goalkeeper Gianluca Curci off his line and aimed a lob from 30 metres, but the crossbar rescued the Romanista.

Little improved after the break, although Manchester United youngster Rossi impressed the few fans who attended the international friendly.

It was the talented 19-year-old’s debut at Under-21 level and the substitute almost snatched a winner on Padoin’s assist, but his header was off target.

Empoli forward Nicola Pozzi suffered an injury in the final stages, so Italy had to end the game in 10 men, as they had already completed their substitutions.

The European Under-21 Championship qualifiers begin in a fortnight and Italy open by taking on Austria on September 5 in Forli.

Italy U-21: Curci; Ferronetti, Potenza, Coda, Mantovani; Rosina, Aquilani, Nocerino, Defendi; Pazzini, Lodi

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HajdukSplit
August 16th, 2006, 14:03
I like how they don't have Croatia's lineup :howler: :rolleyes:

HajdukSplit
August 16th, 2006, 14:13
ok found the Croatian lineup on jutarnji

Subašić 7, Mujdža 5,5 (od 74. Labudović - ), Ipša 6 (od 66. Buljat 5,5), Vučko 6 (od 84. Lozo - ), Bartulović 5,5, Brkljača 6 (od 49. Tadić 5,5), Pokrivač 6,5, Rivić 6 (od 46. Vručina 5,5), Jertec 7 (od 84. Sharbini - ), Dinjar 6,5, Bušić 6 (od 66. Mandžukić 6).

Good result, the U21's will have a tough two matches to qualify

Tony K.
August 16th, 2006, 19:59
Group 12:

58` min: Ukraine U21 - Bulgaria U21 0-2 (0-1)

HajdukSplit
August 16th, 2006, 20:05
the best result would be a draw, both teams are tough, and we play Bulgaria away which is the only match the U21's lost last time

HajdukSplit
August 16th, 2006, 20:26
Bulgaria is killing Ukraine 3:0, Bojinov even scored but I don't think he will play when Croatia goes to Sofia.

HajdukSplit
August 16th, 2006, 21:02
Bulgaria wins 3:0

Croatia U21's will play Bulgaria on September 3rd in Sofia

HajdukSplit
August 17th, 2006, 03:54
Dražen Ladić je rano jutros iz Pise odletio u Kijev gledati ogled mladih selekcija Ukrajine i Bugarske. S Bugarima naime, na njihovu travnjaku, otvaramo prvi krug kvalifikacija za Europsko prvenstvo, a zatim s Ukrajincima na Kantridi (bez publike) moramo tražiti prolaz.

Prvi test Ladićeve ere, susret bez golova s Talijanima u Grossetu, pokazao je da Hrvatska ima igrača u svom vrtu, samo im treba posvetiti veću pažnju, stručnu i financijsku, te dodijeliti glavne uloge u svojim klubovima. Naši mladi odigrali su vrlo dobru utakmicu i tehnički bili dominantni, a u prvom poluvremenu taktički nadigrali veoma jakog suparnika kojega također vodi novi izbornik, bivši reprezentativac Casiraghi.

Ladićevi izabranici nametnuli su Talijanima igru u prvom poluvremenu igrom kratkih pasova na sredini terena i brzom promjenom strana, a Jertec je držao sve konce. Leđa su mu čuvali Brkljača i posebice njegov suigrač iz Varteksa, Pokrivač, pravi pitbull. U rasporedu 4-2-3-1 Hrvatska je držala sredinu, probijala obranu domaćina po bokovima, a Jertec je bio zadužen za distribuciju lopte. Ugodno iznenađenje bilo je prvo poluvrijeme.

- U tom smo razdoblju ostvarili željeno: prvi je zadatak bio kontrolirati igru suparnika kao pripremu za debi u kvalifikacijama, gostujući susret s Bugarima. Dobro smo stajali u obrani, malo je slabija bila pas igra, kao i faza izlaska. Dobro, možda malo pretjerujem i tražim dlaku u jajetu. Igrači su odradili svoje u ponašanju i obvezama, a Italija je respektabilan suparnik - istaknuo je Ladić.

Dodao je da je u Bugarskoj bitno ne izgubiti, a onda će protiv Ukrajine taktika biti ofenzivna.

U drugom poluvremenu naši su reprezentativci 20-ak minuta bili u “talijanskom mlincu”. Čak pet izmjena na odmoru napravio je Casiraghi, pojačao sredinu promjenom rasporeda na terenu te zaigrao u sustavu 4-1-4-1 jer je morao Jertecu dodijeliti čuvara, veoma dobrog Nocerina. Izlazak Brkljače oslabio je malo moć i trku naše sredine. Tu je, naime, premješten Dinjar, veoma zapažen kao lijevi bočni napadač, a Tadić i Vručina zaigrali su na bokovima.

- Najbolji na terenu bio je Pokrivač. Naša se igra razvodnila u nastavku zbog brojnih izmjena. Neki su sami tražili zamjenu zbog umora ili naslućivanja problema. Od Brkljače se traži da se brže razigrava, da mu lopta bude sigurnija, da preuzme inicijativu.

Kada je naša momčad zapadala u probleme u drugom poluvremenu, na scenu bi stupio vratar Danijel Subašić koji je obranio nekoliko teških lopti. S Jertecom prvi igrač utakmice, presudan u ostvarenju neriješenog rezultata, jer nije bilo lako sačuvati mrežu. A Ladić zna kako s vratarima...

- Bio sam impresioniram njegovim nastupima na prethodne dvije utakmice, s Francuskom i BiH. Razgovarao sam s njim i drago mi je što imamo vratara koji ulijeva sigurnost. To je dobit za cijelu momčad - ustvrdio je Ladić.

Hrvatska je odigrala dobru utakmicu, nedostajali su sami golovi. Trebali su zabiti najmanje dva u prvih 20 minuta, ali i isto toliko primiti u razdobljima krize. Da nije bilo Subašića.

Blast
August 17th, 2006, 04:04
As long as they don't get corrupted this is how its supposed to be.

They are the heroes of 98 and I dont like to think that it possible for these guys to get corrupted... I hope to god I am right!! :thumbsup:

davor_suker
August 17th, 2006, 08:35
They are the heroes of 98 and I dont like to think that it possible for these guys to get corrupted... I hope to god I am right!! :thumbsup:

Stimac.

Tony K.
August 17th, 2006, 15:04
Goran Popovic juniorski trener godine

Na odrzanom obveznom seminaru trenera klubova s podrucja Salvonije i Baranje u organizaciji podrucnog instruktora HNS-a Ivice Grnje, a za sve one koji rade u klubovima ukljucno sa cetvrtom ligom nazocnih je bilo cak 122, koliko ih je verificirao Zeljko Bel, tajnik NK Osijek.

Osim radnog dijela seminar je imao i svecanost na kojoj je Sreten Cuk, instruktor HNS-a Srediste Zagreb, Goranu Popovicu urucio trofej namijenjen treneru godine. Obrazlozenje je kristalno jasno i doslo u prave ruke, jer juniori Osijeka su pod Popovicevim strucnim vodstvom osvojili naslov pravaka drzave i Kup Hrvatske. :thmbup:

HajdukSplit
August 18th, 2006, 01:37
is Kranjcar still eligible to play for the U21's? if he is, we should play him for the Bulgaria match as the seniors don't play that day

Bulgaria did it with Bojinov

Blast
August 18th, 2006, 02:25
Stimac.

Whats your point?:confused:

CroatTommy
August 18th, 2006, 17:06
Yeah but Bojinov is still what 20-21? It's amazing how young this guy started off in the Serie A.

His point is Blast, that Stimac was a big part of the 98 Vatreni(a stand up guy and great player) and yet look at him now, one of the most corrupt guys in Croatian soccer, the man that almost single handidly ruined Hajduk in the last 4 years. Just because they were part of the Vatreni doesn't mean they are gauranteed to be angels. Although I do feel that Stimac was the exception not the norm for those guys.

Blast
August 18th, 2006, 23:54
His point is Blast, that Stimac was a big part of the 98 Vatreni(a stand up guy and great player) and yet look at him now, one of the most corrupt guys in Croatian soccer, the man that almost single handidly ruined Hajduk in the last 4 years. Just because they were part of the Vatreni doesn't mean they are gauranteed to be angels. Although I do feel that Stimac was the exception not the norm for those guys.

I knew what his point was Tommy :) but I wanted details of Stimac being corrupt. I have read a bit here and there but am not familiar with the details.

Would someone please go into some more detail for the benefit of us the less informed? Some articles and info would also be grand.

Thanks

Tony K.
August 22nd, 2006, 22:03
1. kolo, 1. HNL juniora 2006/07

DINAMO – SLAVEN BELUPO 5-1
PULA – VARTEKS 2-2
MEĐIMURJE – HAJDUK 1-2
CIBALIA – RIJEKA 2-2
KAMEN INGRAD – ZAGREB 0-1

odgodeno:
ŠIBENIK – OSIJEK

1. kolo, 1. HNL kadeta 2006/07

DINAMO – SLAVEN BELUPO 1-1
PULA – VARTEKS 1-4
MEĐIMURJE – HAJDUK 0-2
CIBALIA – RIJEKA 3-5
KAMEN INGRAD – ZAGREB 0-4

odgodeno:
ŠIBENIK – OSIJEK

HajdukSplit
August 22nd, 2006, 22:07
unless Medjimurje drastically improved their youth teams in two months (which I doubt) thats a pretty shitty score by Hajduk

CroatTommy
August 22nd, 2006, 22:46
Blast, 1 example is a few years ago, Stimac put in his own money along with Boksic, Asanovic and Bilic I believe, into Hajkduk(1 million dollars combined something like that) and what happened? none of those guys are still with Hajduk and Boksic even had to take Stimac to court to get some of his money back. Stimac also owns his own sports betting agency...if that's not mafia underground run then I don't know what is.:rollani:

MaidenMadness
August 22nd, 2006, 23:28
His point is Blast, that Stimac was a big part of the 98 Vatreni(a stand up guy and great player) and yet look at him now, one of the most corrupt guys in Croatian soccer, the man that almost single handidly ruined Hajduk in the last 4 years.
one has to be fair
stimac & grgic didn't ruin hajduk
they just finished the work
however hajduk was in deep shit even before stimac arrived.

so who started the process? who took loans with more than 60% interest rates? who started with the signing of contracts they knew they couldn't afford? isn't it funny how about at the same time those things started happening how the number of talented promising youngsters coming out from the youth ranks started decreasing? from the whole generation that came out(remember the one with pletikosa and deranja and miladin and vukovic and biliskov and sablic etc, remember also a year or two older players such as ivan leko and igor tudor) we came to the level where it takes us about 3 years till a youngster that can play in hajduk's first 11 comes out of youth ranks.

Tony K.
August 25th, 2006, 16:30
Friendlies:

23.08.2006
U-17: Hungary – Croatia 1:1 (1:1)
Tomislav Šorša (41')

06.09.2006. U-17: Czech Republic - Croatia

Tony K.
August 28th, 2006, 18:03
PRVA HNL - 1. kolo - JUNIORI

NK Osijek – Pula SC 3:0 (2:0)

OSIJEK - Stadion Gradski vrt.
Sudac: Ante Vučemilović (Osijek). Pomoćnici: Florijančić (Jurjevac) i Grgić (Osijek).
Strijelci: Prijić (18), 2:0 Prijić (36), 3:0 Džanko (83).

OSIJEK: Pavić, Galić, Džanko, Bogadi, Vida, Bešlagić (od 75. Zorić), Krstanović (od 86. Čavar), Jugović, Šorša, Knežević, Prijić (od 81. Borko).
PULA: Perković, Černjul (od 72. Luchesi), Adžam (od 76. Legin), Červar, Katić, Kostešić, Tomić, Anđelković, Husarić (od 80. Hadžibegić), Peršić, Puh.

PRVA HNL - 1.kolo - KADETI

NK Osijek – Pula SC 3:1 (1-1)

OSIJEK - Stadion Gradski vrt.
Sudac: Slaven Florijančić (Jurjevac). Pomoćnici: Vučemilović, Grgić (svi Osijek).
Strijelci: 1:0 Holjevac (14), 1:1 M. Radolović (26), 2:1 Vuković (44), 3:1 Grahovac (75).
Žuti kartoni: Vuković (Osijek).

OSIJEK: Mikulić, Liović (od 65. Grahovac), Holjevac, Krolo, Vuković (od 76. Ergović), Čaušić, Ovničević, Rudan, Buljević (od 76. Žitnjak), Pavić (od 53. Juričev), Maskaljević (od 53. Topić).
PULA: Žufić, Zgrablić, Stijepić (od 32. Lenić), Đapić, Crepulja, F. Grbac, P. Grbac, Bradarić (od 10. Šugić, od 76. Matteoni), Miljak (od 70. Vrbnjak), Strineka, M. Radolović

Tony K.
August 29th, 2006, 19:21
1. HNL Youth Leagues 2006/07

2. kolo, 27.08.2006., - kadeti

NK ZAGREB – NK SLAVEN BELUPO 3:1
NK RIJEKA – KAMEN INGRAD 3:0
HAJDUK SPLIT – CIBALIA VINKOVCI 2:0
NK VARTEKS – NK MEĐIMURJE 3:0
NK OSIJEK – PULA SC 3:1
DINAMO ZAGREB – HNK ŠIBENIK 8:0

1. HNL Youth Leagues 2006/07

2. kolo, 27.08.2006., - juniori

NK ZAGREB – NK SLAVEN BELUPO 3:0
NK RIJEKA – KAMEN INGRAD 4:0
HAJDUK SPLIT – CIBALIA VINKOVCI 4:0
NK VARTEKS – NK MEĐIMURJE 8:0
NK OSIJEK – NK PULA 3:0
DINAMO ZAGREB – HNK ŠIBENIK 2:0

Strijelci juniori:
1.Tkalcic 4 (Varteks)
2. Lovren 3 (Dinamo)
3. Coric 2 (Hajduk)
3. Hodurovic 2 (Dinamo)
3. Prijic 2 (Osijek)

JAMAICA
August 29th, 2006, 19:35
u drugom kolu juniora gosti niti jedan gol..

ko da smo bosanci.. ;)

Opsajd
August 29th, 2006, 20:41
24:0 na račun gostima :eek: ..............:howler: hrvatsko gostoprimstvo!

HajdukSplit
August 29th, 2006, 20:45
Dejan Lovren needs to play in the HNL right now, if he can't make the Dinamo bench, he needs to be loaned out to a club that will play him

Tony K.
August 29th, 2006, 22:45
Matt Spiranovic je trenutacno na probi u Njemackom gradu Nurmbergu!

Tony K.
September 3rd, 2006, 13:41
Friendlies: Syrenka Cup 2006 Poland

U-17: Slovakia - Croatia 4-0
U-17: Israel - Croatia 1-5
U-17: Croatia - Hungary 3-2

HajdukSplit
September 5th, 2006, 03:00
some good results right there, but at the U17 level, you can't really get too caught up in those matches, only 2-3 will play in the HNL yet alone the NT

Tony K.
September 5th, 2006, 21:18
Strijelci juniori: ljestvica nakon 3. kola

1. Prijic 5 (Osijek) (-1)
2.Tkalcic 4 (Varteks)(-1)
2.Coric 4 (Hajduk)
3. Lovren 3 (Dinamo) (sada u Interu)
4. Dzanko 2 (Osijek) (-1)
4. Hodurovic 2 (Dinamo) (-1)

3. kolo, juniori:

HNK ŠIBENIK – SLAVEN BELUPO 0:1
SC PULA – DINAMO ZAGREB odg.
NK MEĐIMURJE – NK OSIJEK 1:5
CIBALIA VINKOVCI – NK VARTEKS
KAMEN INGRAD – HNK HAJDUK 0:3
NK ZAGREB – NK RIJEKA 3:1

3. kolo, kadeti:

HNK ŠIBENIK – SLAVEN BELUPO 0:1
PULA SC – DINAMO ZAGREB odg.
NK MEĐIMURJE – NK OSIJEK 1:4
CIBALIA VINKOVCI – NK VARTEKS
KAMEN INGRAD – HNK HAJDUK 0:3
NK ZAGREB – NK RIJEKA 2:1

Tony K.
September 7th, 2006, 19:03
06 rujan 2006. - 1. kolo juniori:

HNK ŠIBENIK – NK OSIJEK 2:0 (1:0)

06 rujan 2006. - 1. kolo kadeti:

HNK Šibenik – NK Osijek 1:3 (0:2)
Alen Buljevic 5´, 36´, 43´

JAMAICA
September 7th, 2006, 19:05
tony svaka ti čast, al gdje ti nabavljaš sve te rezultate?

Tony K.
September 7th, 2006, 19:24
tony svaka ti čast, al gdje ti nabavljaš sve te rezultate?

Pa za juniore igram ja sam a za kadete nema problem, jer oni igraju prije nas na istim terenu, tako da gledam i njih! ;)

HajdukSplit
September 15th, 2006, 02:01
the U17's lose to Finland 1:0

Here was the lineup, never heard of any of these guys
Dreven, Besic (Hojski) Jozinovic (Brescic) Grubic, Herceg, Rogic, Sikic (Kokot) Poljak, Tepuric, Francetic, Socer

HajdukSplit
September 21st, 2006, 18:04
The U20's will play Slovenia on the 26th in Kutina, these guys will play in the next U21 qualifiers which start in the fall of 2007

Lončarić (Dinamo), Vargić (Vukovar ‘91.), Pamić (Rijeka), Ipša, Prahić, Begović i Viljevac (Varteks), Buljat i Bušić (Hajduk), Božić, Zelenika, Šarić i Sivonjić (Kamen Ingrad), Mišić i Dinjar (Osijek), Kerić (Cibalia), Mandžukić (Zagreb) i Rukavina (Šibenik).

nobody from Hajduk or Dinamo

Hrvatino
September 21st, 2006, 18:15
nobody from Hajduk or Dinamo

??? So why is Buljat, Busic and Loncaric up there? :D

HajdukSplit
September 21st, 2006, 18:21
:wallbang: my mistake :howler: I guess I meant to say not as many as usual

MaidenMadness
September 21st, 2006, 18:25
well take a look at a list of players playing for hajduk & dinamo this season, their age and say how many of them actually are eligable to play for u21 team

not unexpected the low number of players from those two clubs then

HajdukSplit
September 26th, 2006, 23:54
Croatia "new" U21's beat Slovenia today in Kutina 2:1. The best player on the field was Miroslav Saric, the Dinamo Zagreb youth player on loan at Kamen Ingrad. Apparently the defense looked shaky but if look at the defenders they are either 2.HNL players or not regulars

Loncaric (6.5)
Bozic (6) - Ipsa (6) - Misic (5.5) - Pamic (5.5)
Prahic (6.5)
Keric (7) - Begovic (6) - Saric (7)
Sivonjic (5.5) - Kalinic (5.5)

*Zelenika, Viljevac and Jurin came on the second half. Goals were scored by Saric and Keric

HajdukSplit
October 16th, 2006, 03:23
The Croatian U19's begin their road to the UEFA European U19 Championships which will be held next summer in Austria. Croatia start their first round qualifiers on Tuesday as they travel to Lithuania, the top two teams in the group advance to the Elite Round. I don't know the squad yet, maybe tomorrow they will have a list.

Croatia are in Group 12 as the top seed and its definetly a group they can get out of
Group 12
Croatia
Serbia
Lithuania (hosts)
Moldova

17.10 vs. Lithuania (Suduva)
19.10 vs. Moldova (Kaunas)
22.10 vs. Serbia (Kaunas)

HajdukSplit
October 17th, 2006, 23:08
Croatia start with a 2:0 victory over Lithuania. Still no idea what the squad is yet alone the scorers, in the other game Serbia beat Moldova 4:1. Next up is Moldova on Thursday, a win would get us through

baraba
October 18th, 2006, 03:00
Croatia "new" U21's beat Slovenia today in Kutina 2:1. The best player on the field was Miroslav Saric, the Dinamo Zagreb youth player on loan at Kamen Ingrad. Apparently the defense looked shaky but if look at the defenders they are either 2.HNL players or not regulars

Loncaric (6.5)
Bozic (6) - Ipsa (6) - Misic (5.5) - Pamic (5.5)
Prahic (6.5)
Keric (7) - Begovic (6) - Saric (7)
Sivonjic (5.5) - Kalinic (5.5)

*Zelenika, Viljevac and Jurin came on the second half. Goals were scored by Saric and Keric

Why didn't Rukavina play?

HajdukSplit
October 18th, 2006, 13:52
Nikola Kalinic and an own goal were the goals yesterday, here was the lineup

Ivan Kelava (Dinamo Zagreb)
Milan Badelj (Dinamo Zagreb)
Kreso Ljubicic (Hajduk Split)
Dejan Lovren (Dinamo Zagreb, on loan at Inter Zapresic)
Tomislav Kristic (Hajduk Split)
Damir Rasic (Hajduk Split)
Davor Spehar (Dinamo Zagreb)
Stjepan Babic (Dinamo Zagreb, made his debut last week)
Nikola Kalinic (Hajduk Split, on loan at Pula)
Ivan Grgic (NK Zagreb)
Tomislav Sorsa (Osijek)

looks like this is the generation that finished 4th in Europe at the U17 level, hopefully they do the same at the U19's

Tony K.
October 18th, 2006, 18:03
Nikola Kalinic and an own goal were the goals yesterday, here was the lineup

Ivan Kelava (Dinamo Zagreb)
Milan Badelj (Dinamo Zagreb)
Kreso Ljubicic (Hajduk Split) :nono: -> Eintracht Frankfurt!
Dejan Lovren (Dinamo Zagreb, on loan at Inter Zapresic)
Tomislav Kristic (Hajduk Split)
Damir Rasic (Hajduk Split)
Davor Spehar (Dinamo Zagreb)
Stjepan Babic (Dinamo Zagreb, made his debut last week)
Nikola Kalinic (Hajduk Split, on loan at Pula)
Ivan Grgic (NK Zagreb) -> Cibalia Vinkovci
Tomislav Sorsa (Osijek)

looks like this is the generation that finished 4th in Europe at the U17 level, hopefully they do the same at the U19's

http://www.eintracht.de/saison/jugend/u19/spieler_details.php?kuerzel=ljubicic

HajdukSplit
October 18th, 2006, 18:54
needs a haircut, no mullets allowed on the team :nono:

spidey
October 19th, 2006, 01:20
what about stipe grgic? he was on the under17 that finished fourth but is not on this squad..does anyone know why? he is considered from what i heard a pretty good talent in hajduk..

HajdukSplit
October 19th, 2006, 17:47
Croatia win their second match, 3:0 over Moldova, don't know the details yet. Serbia won their match over Lithuania 4:0, meaning both Croatia and Serbia advance no matter what the result is on Sunday

Tony K.
October 19th, 2006, 17:54
what about stipe grgic? he was on the under17 that finished fourth but is not on this squad..does anyone know why? he is considered from what i heard a pretty good talent in hajduk..

Stipe Bacelic-Grgic is injured!

HajdukSplit
October 19th, 2006, 18:27
Group 12 table, Croatia and Serbia make the elite round which will be at the start of next year

Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
1. Serbia 2 2 0 0 8:1 6
2. Croatia 2 2 0 0 5:0 6
3. Moldova 2 0 0 2 1:7 0
4. Lithuania 2 0 0 2 0:6 0

spidey
October 19th, 2006, 22:25
Stipe Bacelic-Grgic is injured!
thank you tony k..

HajdukSplit
October 20th, 2006, 15:07
Kalinic scored all three goals for the U19's against Moldova. They used the same lineup as the previous game

Kalinic has scored 4 out of the 5 goals so far, don't know what Hajduk don't see in him, some guys on the Torcida forum say he is lazy but if he scores like this, its better than Jelavic

MaidenMadness
October 20th, 2006, 21:17
maybe sending him off to pula sobered him up a bit

lets try the same thing with jelavic in winter

Tony K.
October 22nd, 2006, 19:06
Srbija – Hrvatska 2:2 (1:1)
Moldavija – Litva 2:0

Hrvati su vodili po dvaput s 1:0 i 2:1, ali Srbi uspijevaju u kontrima! Pred sam kraj Hrvatska je bila mocnija ali rezulta ostaje isti. Tako Hrvati idu kao drugi te skupine u Elite round koja vodi na EP u Austiju!

HajdukSplit
October 22nd, 2006, 19:09
beat me to it :)

this generation has the potential to make the EP in Austria, they finished 4th in Europe a few years ago, but last time the U19's had a killer Elite Round group

HajdukSplit
October 22nd, 2006, 19:10
Team P W D L GF:GA PTS
1. Serbia 3 2 1 0 10:3 7
2. Croatia 3 2 1 0 7:2 7
3. Moldova 3 1 0 2 3:7 3
4. Lithuania 3 0 0 3 0:8 0

HajdukSplit
October 22nd, 2006, 19:21
Damir Rasic (Hajduk) and Vedran Turklaj (Rijeka) scored for Croatia

HajdukSplit
October 23rd, 2006, 19:50
UEFA U17 2006/2007 Qualifiers
Just as soon as the U19 qualifiers end, the Croatian U17's begin their run to the EC 2007 in Belgium and hope to eventually qualify for the FIFA U17 World Cup in South Korea. The Croatian U17's have been drawn in a tricky group, all the matches will be played in Estonia. Top two teams advance to the Elite Round which will take place early next year

Group 8
Netherlands
Norway
Croatia
Estonia (hosts)

Croatia vs. Norway (25.10)
Croatia vs. Estonia (27.10)
Netherlands vs. Croatia (30.10)

MaidenMadness
October 23rd, 2006, 20:26
top two eh?
well i think we have enough quality to qualify

if it was only top team to qualify it would be much much harder

croatian batman
October 23rd, 2006, 21:20
I wish youth team formats were more expansive and creative with the youth format?

I wish they had the old system the U-21 used for all youth teams. I think it gives the kids more exposure and better value for all.

Hrvatino
October 23rd, 2006, 21:56
Damir Rasic (Hajduk) and Vedran Turklaj (Rijeka) scored for Croatia

It's Turkalj, have relatives with that surname :)

HajdukSplit
October 23rd, 2006, 23:30
I wish youth team formats were more expansive and creative with the youth format?

I wish they had the old system the U-21 used for all youth teams. I think it gives the kids more exposure and better value for all.

think it would be difficult. most of these U17 guys are still probably in school and are not professionals yet so it would be difficult for them to play 10 qualifiers perhaps in Kazakhstan to Norway

I agree, the U21 format was great but they changed it into something so stupid, Croatia lost their first match of qualifiers in Bulgaria, not an easy place to play and they were out before even playing at home

Tony K.
October 25th, 2006, 18:13
U17 European Championship - Qualification

Netherlands - Estonia 5:1
Croatia - Norway 0:5 :(

HajdukSplit
October 25th, 2006, 18:45
:howler: bravo decki, they stink, and they are the future of the HNL :rolleyes:

Tony K.
October 27th, 2006, 17:12
U17 European Championship - Qualification

Norway - Netherlands 0:1
Croatia - Estonia

Tony K.
October 27th, 2006, 20:05
U17 European Championship - Qualification

Norway - Netherlands 0:1
Croatia - Estonia 7:1 (4:1)

1. Netherlands....2 2 0 0 6 : 1 6
2. Norway..........2 1 0 1 5 : 1 3
3. Croatia..........2 1 0 1 7 : 6 3
4. Estonia..........2 0 0 2 2 : 12 0

HajdukSplit
October 30th, 2006, 18:59
5:1 loss to Netherlands, basically two embrassing losses and one good result against a shit team

HajdukSplit
November 1st, 2006, 14:38
2006 Youth Review
Well no more official youth team games for 2006 and this is how the Croatian U21, U19 and U17 did.

Croatia U21
Bulgaria - Croatia 2:1 (Brkljaca)
Croatia - Ukraine 1:2 (Busic)

*The format for the U21 team was really stupid this season and hopefully they change it, I know they had to have a quick qualifying system because of the year change to odd years but now since they have more time they should come up with a real qualifying system. Its s shame that the U21's lose one match and then are automatically eliminated, they play 2 real matches in 1 1/2 years :rolleyes: This was also one of the toughest groups, Croatia was in pot 1 but then get a finalist and a decent youth team

Croatia U19
Croatia - Lithuania 2:0 (Kalinic, Savickas og)
Croatia - Moldova 3:0 (Kalinic x3)
Serbia - Croatia 2:2 (Rasic, Turkalj)

*They advance to the Elite Round and this is the same generation the finished 4th in Europe at the U17 level. Kalinic is the all-star of this team but there are other talentes like Lovren, Sorsa, Ljubicic and Badelj. It will be interesting to see who they get next round and see where they play it. Remember at the U17 level these guys were able to beat Portugal in the Elite Level but the matches were played in Croatia

Croatia U17 :rolleyes:
Norway - Croatia 5:0
Croatia - Estonia 7:1 (Scrbec x2, Besic x2, Sacer x3)
Holland - Croatia 5:1 (Scrbec)

*This team stinks, ok they beat Estonia 7:1 but seriously these guys are the future of the HNL. No surprise actually, I wasn't expecting them to beat Norway and Holland but wasn't expecting results like that. Hopefully they didn't half-ass these games

At the club level, Hajduk Split juniors were successful in three international tournaments

Super Hrvoje
November 1st, 2006, 19:14
I'd have the U-17 coach's head in a noose and hanging from the nearest tree. No Croatian team should have that many goals scored on them. I don't care if they suck but a coach should be able to organize them defensively.

HajdukSplit
November 1st, 2006, 19:17
Ivan Gudelj :D the guy did horribly for Hajduk but again he finished 4th in Europe a few years ago, must be the players

Super Hrvoje
November 1st, 2006, 19:40
Imagine if last years U-17's had a better Coach...;)

Tony K.
November 1st, 2006, 19:56
2006 Youth Review

Croatia U17 :rolleyes:
Norway - Croatia 5:0
Croatia - Estonia 7:1 (Scrbec x2, Besic x2, Sacer x3)
Holland - Croatia 5:1 (Scrbec)

*This team stinks, ok they beat Estonia 7:1 but seriously these guys are the future of the HNL. No surprise actually, I wasn't expecting them to beat Norway and Holland but wasn't expecting results like that. Hopefully they didn't half-ass these games

At the club level, Hajduk Split juniors were successful in three international tournaments

Pa sta se tu moze? Ali vidi se da je Gudelj Hajdukovac! Na popisu za Estoniju su bili po sedam iz Splita i Dinama, cetri iz Varteksa, 2 igraca iz Zagreba, te po jedan iz Slavena i Kopra!

Gdje su bili Rjecani ili Osjecani poput Alena Buljevica (NK Osijek) koji u 10 susreta postigao 12 golova!? :rollani:

Orkan_Dugi Rat
November 6th, 2006, 06:07
Ivan Gudelj: Nastupili smo bez osam igraca

Vijesti s kvalifikacijskog turnira reprezentacije "do 17" u Tallinnu doista nisu bile ugodne. Hrvatska je izgubila od Norveske 0:5, od Nizozemske 1:5 i nije ostala u natjecanju za EP jer onih pocetnih 7:1 protiv Estonije ne znaci mnogo. Gledajuci s distance taj neuspjeh brine. Medjutim, kao i obicno, medalja ima dvije strane.
- Ne zna se da smo nastupili bez sedmorice prakticki standardnih igraca, a to su Antolic, Pazman, Herceg i Francetic iz Dinama, Cop iz Hajduka, Jagecic iz Varteksa i Abdurahimi iz Zagreba. Svi su turnir preskocili zbog ozljeda, u Estoniju nisu ni putovali. U prvoj utakmici potres mozga zaradio je Spanjic, nerijetko sam morao koristiti i dosta mladje igrace, Kokota, Poljaka i Ozobica koji su rodjeni 1990. i 1991. godine - pojasnjava izbornik Ivan Gudelj.

Kadrovski hendikep je nedvojben, toliko ponajboljih ne moze se nadoknaditi...
- Posrijedi je jedna generacija, jedno godiste, a na starosni razmak od cijelog desetljeca. Kad su Nizozemci susret s nama poceli bez trojice vaznih igraca, bez problema smo pola sata odrzavali rezultata 0:0 - kaze Gudelj.

Ohrabruje sto narastaj nije los, rezultat ce doci drugom prigodom...
- Imamo potencijal koji obecava. Mozda ne senzacionalan, dobar svakako. Ne kazem da bismo u punom sastavu pobijedili Norvezane i Nizozemce, koji su zaista jaki, no ovako smo stvarno bili nemocni - zakljucio je izbornik Ivan Gudelj.

I dont know about the other guys, but I hear Cop is a talent like his old man was.

Ero
November 6th, 2006, 06:23
is his old man Cro Cop?

Tony K.
November 6th, 2006, 18:21
U-21: Ladić izabrao 32 za Umag

- Računam i na Iličevića iz Bochuma i na Rakitića iz Basela, no s obzirom na to da nije u pitanju natjecateljska utakmica, nisam ih zvao, kao ni Bartulovića i Glavinu iz Dnjepra - rekao je Ladić

ZAGREB - Izbornik mlade hrvatske nogometne reprezentacije Dražen Ladić odredio je 32 igrača za selektivni kamp godišta 1986. i mlađih, koji će se održati u Umagu od 12. do 14. studenoga, a završit će međusobnom utakmicom u utorak u 14 sati na gradskom stadionu. Od inozemaca su na popisu samo Miljenko Bošjak (Drava Ptuj, Slovenija) i Domagoj Duspara (Leoben, Austrija).

- Računam i na Iličevića iz Bochuma i na Rakitića iz Basela, no s obzirom na to da nije u pitanju natjecateljska utakmica, nisam ih zvao, kao ni Bartulovića i Glavinu iz Dnjepra - rekao je Ladić, koji se također nada odgodi 15. kola kako bi se u Umag otišlo dan ranije, u subotu 11. studenoga.

Na popisu su:

Lončarić, Kelava (Dinamo), Buljat, Bušić (Hajduk), G. Vuk, Ipša, Begović, Prahić (Varteks), Mišić, Dinjar, Barišić (Osijek), Pamić, An. Sharbini, Baković (Rijeka), Mandžukić, Mikulić, Bjelobrajdić (Zagreb), Šarić, Makarin, Božić, Zelenika (K. Ingrad), Rukavina (Šibenik), Vargić (Vukovar ‘91), Kerić (Cibalia), Krišto (Croatia Sesvete), Bošnjak (Drava Ptuj), Duspara (Leoben), Kalinić (Pula), Lovren (Inter Zaprešić), Viljevac (Čakovec), Jurin (Hrvatski dragovoljac), Franić (Zadar).

U stožeru su, uz izbornika Ladića, Zlatko Dalić, Vlado Liović, Vatroslav Mihačić i direktor Martin Novoselac

MaidenMadness
November 6th, 2006, 19:07
is his old man Cro Cop?
:rollani: yeah right


davor cop former hajduk, cibalija & empoli player

Blast
November 7th, 2006, 06:35
U-21: Ladić izabrao 32 za Umag

- Računam i na Iličevića iz Bochuma i na Rakitića iz Basela, no s obzirom na to da nije u pitanju natjecateljska utakmica, nisam ih zvao, kao ni Bartulovića i Glavinu iz Dnjepra - rekao je Ladić

ZAGREB - Izbornik mlade hrvatske nogometne reprezentacije Dražen Ladić odredio je 32 igrača za selektivni kamp godišta 1986. i mlađih, koji će se održati u Umagu od 12. do 14. studenoga, a završit će međusobnom utakmicom u utorak u 14 sati na gradskom stadionu. Od inozemaca su na popisu samo Miljenko Bošjak (Drava Ptuj, Slovenija) i Domagoj Duspara (Leoben, Austrija).

- Računam i na Iličevića iz Bochuma i na Rakitića iz Basela, no s obzirom na to da nije u pitanju natjecateljska utakmica, nisam ih zvao, kao ni Bartulovića i Glavinu iz Dnjepra - rekao je Ladić, koji se također nada odgodi 15. kola kako bi se u Umag otišlo dan ranije, u subotu 11. studenoga.

Na popisu su:

Lončarić, Kelava (Dinamo), Buljat, Bušić (Hajduk), G. Vuk, Ipša, Begović, Prahić (Varteks), Mišić, Dinjar, Barišić (Osijek), Pamić, An. Sharbini, Baković (Rijeka), Mandžukić, Mikulić, Bjelobrajdić (Zagreb), Šarić, Makarin, Božić, Zelenika (K. Ingrad), Rukavina (Šibenik), Vargić (Vukovar ‘91), Kerić (Cibalia), Krišto (Croatia Sesvete), Bošnjak (Drava Ptuj), Duspara (Leoben), Kalinić (Pula), Lovren (Inter Zaprešić), Viljevac (Čakovec), Jurin (Hrvatski dragovoljac), Franić (Zadar).

U stožeru su, uz izbornika Ladića, Zlatko Dalić, Vlado Liović, Vatroslav Mihačić i direktor Martin Novoselac

What an absolute ckoc he is for not calling them to secure the lads already...:yuck:

Ero
November 7th, 2006, 07:18
mm take it easy with with the roll eyes there man, just razzin a little. :)

spidey
November 9th, 2006, 00:41
what an idiot ladic is..from what ive read on ivo he has great technical ability and hes playing at 19 in the bundesliga..he might not be starting but hes playing every match..

HajdukSplit
November 13th, 2006, 03:54
Ladic should be no where near coaching any youth selection, there are surely better candidates like Pudar, Dalic and Jurcevic

Here are the HNL juniori and kadeti tables, Hajduk leading the kadeti and NK Zagreb leading the juniors

Juniori
1. NK Zagreb 11 7 3 1 24:11 24
2. Hajduk 11 6 3 2 23:8 21
3. Osijek 11 6 3 2 22:12 21
4. Dinamo 11 6 2 2 25:11 20
5. Rijeka 11 4 5 2 19:12 17
6. Slaven 11 5 2 4 12:16 17
7. Varteks 11 4 4 2 27:13 16
8. Sibenik 11 5 1 5 11:15 16
9. Cibalia 11 3 2 6 23:20 11
10. Pula 11 2 2 7 11:31 8
11. Kamen 11 1 3 7 8:21 6
12. Medjimurje 11 1 0 10 8:43 3

Kadeti
1. Hajduk 11 9 1 1 21:5 28
2. NK Zagreb 11 9 0 2 27:7 27
3. Dinamo 10 7 2 1 28:7 23
4. Varteks 10 7 1 2 28:9 22
5. Osijek 11 6 2 3 28:18 20
6. Rijeka 11 5 2 4 31:20 17
7. Cibalia 11 4 2 5 13:18 14
8. Medjimurje 11 4 0 7 14:22 12
9. Sibenik 11 3 1 7 7:23 10
10. Slaven 11 2 3 6 10:22 9
11. Pula 11 1 1 9 9:27 4
12. Kamen 11 0 1 10 4:43

Looks like not only does Kamen's first team suck too ;)

Tony K.
November 13th, 2006, 20:50
Juniori - round 12:

1. Zagreb 12 8 3 1 27:11 27
2. Hajduk 12 7 3 2 26:8 24
3. Osijek 12 7 3 2 23:12 24
4. Dinamo 11 6 2 3 25:12 20 (-1)
5. Rijeka 12 5 5 2 21:12 20
6. Slaven 12 6 2 4 13:16 20
7. Varteks 11 5 4 2 29:14 19 (-1)
8. Sibenik 12 5 1 6 11:16 16
9. Cibalia 12 3 2 7 23:22 11
10.Pula 12 2 2 8 12:33 8
11.Kamen 12 1 3 8 8:24 6
12.Medjimurje 12 1 0 11 8:46 3

HajdukSplit
November 17th, 2006, 04:32
The U21's played an inter-squad match, which "Team Red" beat "Team Blue" 2:1

Team Red
Loncaric (Franic 46) Keric, Pamic, Lovren, Ipsa, Duspara, Viljevac, Bosnjak, Barisic, Dinjar, Bacak

Team Blue
Vargic (Kelaca 46), Makarin, Jurin, Bozic, Mikulic, Kristo, Begovic, Zelenika, Mandzukic, Saric, Vuk (Bjelobradic 37)

1:0 Bacak (14) 1:1 Begovic (43) 2:1 Barisic (88)

I hear this Bacak is a good player, he plays in the 2.HNL but he should be at least a 1.HNL player

Tony K.
November 20th, 2006, 21:18
Juniori - 13. kolo:

CIBALIA - HAJDUK 0:1 (0:0)

0:1 Ferreira (51 - 11m)

CIBALIA:Marijan Antolović, Marko Bošnjaković, Ilija Anušić, Ante Kalauz (od 41. Luka Zovko), Tomo Šimunac, Antonio Kelić, Tomislav Jurić, Bernard Periša, Roman Hrgovčić, Tomislav Čulo(cap), Marko Novoselac
Trener: Nenad Lušić

HAJDUK:Božidar Radošević, Danijel Rašić, Teo Vardić (od 68. Niko Peraić), Damir Rašić, Tomo Kristić, Marin Ljubičić, Mirko Oremuš, Ante Režić (cap) (od 88. Hrvoje Milić), Mirko Žaja (od 82. Mario Šunjić), Ferreira, Ivan Čorić
Trener: Joe Španjić

Kadeti - 13. kolo:

CIBALIA - HAJDUK 1:0 (1:0)

1:0 Vlatko Šimunac (4 -11m)

CIBALIA: Dario Vuković, Dario Bartulović, Dario Rugašević, Ivan Pavičić, Josip Haluška, Renato Kelić, Tomislav Mazalović, Vedran Bikić(cap), Vlatko Šimunac (od 66. Mikulić), Mato Ivanović (od 71. Dinko Barbarić), Tomo Galović (od 72. Šime Bošnjak)
Trener: Ivan Karaula

HAJDUK: Lovre Kalinić, Ante Vuković, Goran Jozinović, Slavko Grubić (od 4. Mark Dujić), Roko Španjić, Marin Grčić (od 41. Jure Šuto), Duje Runje, Jure Gale (od 41. Domagoj Barač), Oliver Tole, Dinko Trebotić, Jure Grgat (cap)
Trener: Dean Računica

here thats for you HajdukSplit :D Hajduk juniors are on the top again with 27 points! But you know what happened last year?! ;)

baraba
November 20th, 2006, 22:11
The U21's played an inter-squad match, which "Team Red" beat "Team Blue" 2:1

Team Red
Loncaric (Franic 46) Keric, Pamic, Lovren, Ipsa, Duspara, Viljevac, Bosnjak, Barisic, Dinjar, Bacak

Team Blue
Vargic (Kelaca 46), Makarin, Jurin, Bozic, Mikulic, Kristo, Begovic, Zelenika, Mandzukic, Saric, Vuk (Bjelobradic 37)

1:0 Bacak (14) 1:1 Begovic (43) 2:1 Barisic (88)

I hear this Bacak is a good player, he plays in the 2.HNL but he should be at least a 1.HNL player

I asked this before and no one answered my question. What is the reason that Ante Rukavina is not on this team?

HajdukSplit
November 20th, 2006, 22:18
because I think most of these guys are U19 players, Ladic only selected players who will be able to play for the U21's next year, or maybe Sibenik did not allow him to go to the camp, you don't see any Dinamo or Hajduk players there other than Loncaric

MaidenMadness
November 20th, 2006, 22:40
I asked this before and no one answered my question. What is the reason that Ante Rukavina is not on this team?
same reasons why there aren't busic and buljat on the team
their clubs didn't let them go

NK19
November 20th, 2006, 23:41
Nedavno su u Hrvatskom nogometnom savezu objavili da prate sve igrače “od Sjevernog do Južnog pola” koji bi jednog dana mogli zaigrati za hrvatsku reprezentaciju. No, do danas još niti jednom nisu pozvali talente Ivana Rakitića iz Basela ili Ivu Iličevića koji igra za Bochum.

Ovih dana na europskom nogometnom nebu pozornost na sebe privlači još jedan nogometaš čije su poveznice s Hrvatskom još i jače. Radi se o kadetskom reprezentativcu Srbije Milanu Prši, bratiću donedavno najboljeg hrvatskog reprezentativca Dade Prše.

Šesnaestogodišnji Milan Pršo trenutno je na Malti gdje je U-17 reprezentacija Srbije već osigurala prolaz u sljedeći krug kvalifikacija za EP. U pobjedama protiv vršnjaka iz Malte (2-0) i Andore (4-0), 16-godišnji Milan Pršo postigao je po jedan pogodak. U srijedu će se za prvo mjesto u skupini boriti s Talijanima. U kadetskom uzrastu Hrvatska nije prošla prvi krug kvalifikacija, bila je treća u skupini iza Nizozemske (izgubili 1-5) i Norveške (0-5).

O talentu mladog Prše, uz reprezentativni status, dovoljno govori i što je kapetan Crvene zvezde u svom uzrastu. Svojedobno su ga nahvalili i bivši trener Crvene zvezde Slavoljub Muslin, “odlična tehnika, laki dribling, fantastično kretanje bez lopte”, dok je Toma Milićević, dugogodišnji trener u mlađim kategorijama beogradskog kluba, prije godinu dana izjavio:

- Činjenice govore da je pravi nogometni biser i jako talentirani igrač. Vrijeme radi za njega i uz pravilan razvoj može postati veliki as.

Početkom prošle godine o malom Prši pisala je i Slobodna Dalmacija. Milan je tada kazao kako mu Dado (očevi su im braća) stalno šalje poklone “kopačke, dresove, majice, hlače, kaput...” te dodao:

- Bit ću ja odličan igrač, možda i bolji od Dade. Volio bih igrati u velikim klubovima. Mislim da ću to moći, pa ja sam kapetan u Crvenoj zvezdi.

Milanova obitelj izbjegla je iz Obrovca 1995. godine. U vrijeme razgovora za SD živjeli su u selu iza Avale, u ne baš najboljim uvjetima. Otac Milivoje (igrao nogomet u Rijeci) je na pitanje kako žive odgovorio...

- Ne baš dobro. Tu smo u iznajmljenom stanu. Sve nam je ostalo u Obrovcu... Mislim li na povratak kući? A tko to ne bi želio. Još je sve neizvjesno iz niza razloga.

Formalno-pravnih prepreka da Milan Pršo jednog dana zaigra za reprezentaciju Hrvatske - nema. Najbitnija je želja. Ukoliko se ona javi kod ljudi iz HNS-a, uz kvalitetnu ponudu koja bi obitelji Milana Prše omogućila povratak i bolji život nego dosada, nema razloga da još jedan Pršo u budućnosti ne počne zabijati za Hrvatsku. Vrijedi pokušati... I zbog sve one radosti koju nam je nebrojeno puta podario njegov bratić Dado Pršo.


...Šta kažete?


Znam da će Srbi najvjerojatnije ovo iskoristiti protiv nas, ali me iskreno zaboli :thmbdown:

Hrvatino
November 21st, 2006, 12:24
Leave the kid alone! He's a serb and is going to play for Serbia.

Ero
November 21st, 2006, 14:19
pitanje je dal si ti ljudi bili normalni gradjani u ne normalnim vremenima, ili su ipak, kao vecina u toj "krajini", bili pomagaci terorista i ubojica?

Zaboli me iskreno receno, Dado je legenda hrvatskog sporta, hrvat sa srcem na mjestu.

HajdukSplit
November 22nd, 2006, 14:46
Dok se izbornik hrvatske U-21 reprezentacije svađa s Hajdukom glede poziva dvojici njihovih igrača, čini se da Ladiću i HNS-u "ispred nosa" odlazi najtalentiraniji tinejdžer švicarske nogometne lige i najtalentiraniji Hrvat rođen 1988. godine.

Ivan Rakitić zabilježio je prošlog tjedna prvi nastup za švicarsku U-21 reprezentaciju...Rakitić je prošlog tjedna dobio pozivnicu izbornika švicarske U-21 reprezentacije Bernarda Challandesa da nastupi među dvije godine starijim vršnjacima. 19-godišnji napadač Basela prihvatio je poziv i ubilježio prvi nastup za Švicarsku u U-21 kategoriji, u pobjedi protiv Slovenije 4:1.

I ne samo da je ubilježio nastup, nego mu je i trebalo samo 23 minute da starijim kolegama pokaže tko je gazda, otvorivši vrata pobjede pogotkom. Utakmica je, ironično, igrana u Kopru, tek nekoliko kilometara od Umaga gdje se nalazio Ladić sa družinom "crveni protiv plavih", a i sudio je naš sudac Mario Strahonja.

Iako nastupom u Sloveniji Rakitić još uvijek nije i službeno izgubljen za Hrvatsku, jer reprezentaciju može promijeniti dok god ne nastupi u službenoj utakmici pod okriljem Uefe (u kvalifikacijama ili na nekom natjecanju), jasno je da ni Švicarci ne sjede prekriženih ruku, niti će mirno gledati kako im "novi Petrić" bježi u "zemlju svojih predaka". Zbog toga je i pozvan u U-21 momčad, iako generacijski još spada u U-19 reprezentaciju.

Činjenica da je Rakitić odlučio svoj prvi nastup za U-21 reprezentaciju ubilježiti u crvenom dresu u Kopru, umjesto da dvadesetak kilometara južnije po prvi put obuče dres s crveno-bijelim kvadratićima, mogla bi biti prilično direktna i jasna poruka.

Bez obzira što iz HNS-a uporno u javnost puštaju već izlizanu matricu kako "svih prate i pravovremeno će reagirati", zasad ne postoji ni jedan argument za vjeru kako će ovaj mladić zaista zaigrati za Hrvatsku. Osim njegove izjave kako bi "on volio"...

Ladic is a bum, what has he done to deserve managing the U21's? And now he is causing trouble with Hajduk and he didn't call up either Ilicevic or Rakitic. Was it really that hard to hire Novoselac?

Tony K.
November 27th, 2006, 23:19
Spain spared Scotland showdown

Last season's UEFA European Under-19 Championship finalists Spain and Scotland will be kept apart in the 2006/07 Elite round after the seedings were announced for the 16.00CET draw on 5 December in Nyon.

Trio join qualifiers
Spain, who lifted the trophy for the third time in five years in Poland this July, were one of three teams given a bye to this stage along with fellow top seeds England and Italy. They join 25 successful teams from the qualifying round in the draw for seven groups of four nations. Only the winners of each mini-tournament, to be played at one venue next spring, will progress to the finals from 16-27 July along with hosts Austria.

Scotland seeded
Scotland, like Hungary, Israel and Romania, will be seeded along with Spain, England and Italy in Pot A due to their qualifying round results. The second group contains 2005 winners France, while a team to watch in Pot C will be Turkey, who contain much of the squad that took the 2005 UEFA European U17 Championship title. The team they beat on that day, the Netherlands, are in Pot D. One team from every seeding pot will be placed in each group, with sides that played each other in the qualifying round being kept apart as far as possible.

Seeding groups

Pot A: England, Spain (holders), Italy, Scotland, Hungary, Israel, Romania.

Pot B: Republic of Ireland, France, Serbia, Czech Republic, Norway, Portugal, Croatia.

Pot C: Germany, Turkey, Sweden, Slovakia, Switzerland, Russia, Iceland.

Pot D: Greece, Poland, Netherlands, Georgia, Bulgaria, Denmark, Azerbaijan.

MaidenMadness
November 27th, 2006, 23:20
tony k. hows your career going with the new boss
anywhere near the u-21 nt?

Tony K.
November 28th, 2006, 21:46
tony k. hows your career going with the new boss
anywhere near the u-21 nt?

Jos nisam dobio pravu priliku kod g. Loncarevica! :rollani: Vuce me i neka laksa povreda! Ali za Dvoransko Prvenstvo bit cu pravi! Tada cu dobit i svoju priliku, tako je rijec iz stozera! Volim igrat Futsal (indoor)! Bit ce to vam prilika da me vidite uzivo na HRT-u:nervous:! A za mladu reprezentaciju od 21 godina ima jos mnogo vrijemena, tek mi je 17 godina! :smileani: Tek slijedi novi izazov - U-19 NT, ako dobim poziv bit ce to uspijeh za mene! :hopefull:

HajdukSplit
December 5th, 2006, 21:45
U19 Elite Round draw
Group 2
Italy
Croatia
Sweden
Bulgaria

only the top team makes it, tough group mainly because of Italy, also the games will all be in Greece

MaidenMadness
January 4th, 2007, 12:18
Dražen Ladić: Pronašli smo nove inozemce

Izbornik mlade reprezentacije Dražen Ladić zasukao je rukave i kreće u potragu za novim klincima s kojima će u rujnu krenuti u operaciju EP 2009.

- Nema više Subašića, Jerteca, Pokrivača, Brkljače, Mujdže, Vukmana, Rivića, Vručine... Dakle, gradimo potpuno novu momčad - kaže Dražen Ladić.

Koplja su se proteklih mjeseci lomila oko hajdukovaca Buljata i Bušića. Hoće li oni opet dobiti vaš poziv?
- Žao mi je tih dečki jer oni nisu ništa krivi, no njihov klub procijenio je da mu nije u interesu da oni igraju za reprezentaciju. Zvao sam ih dva puta, za Sloveniju i za selekciju u Umagu, i oba puta nisu došli, treći puta više nema smisla.

Ima li šanse za novoga dinamovca Tadića? Njega ste prošloga ljeta prekrižili.
- Učinio sam to jer na najvažnijoj pripremnoj utakmici, s Italijom, kod Tadića nisam primijetio želju i ambicioznost. Poslije su mi rekli da dečko ima problema u Bayeru, da živi sam, ne igra... Pa zar sam takvoga igrača trebao zvati?

Hoće li opet dobiti šansu?
- Bude li u Dinamu igrao, dobit će je. Bio bih bedak kad bih se odrekao takvoga igrača. Ali, mora biti u vrhunskoj formi!

Hoćete li nas iznenaditi nekim novim igračem?
- Pronašli smo neke igrače u inozemstvu, Glavinu iz Dnipra, Bošnjaka iz ptujske Drave, Dusparu iz Leobena, zatim Bačka iz Mosora. Zanimljivi su nam Iličević iz Bochuma, Rakitić iz Basela, kao i Bodul iz Heerenveena. Naći ćemo dostojne nasljednike sadašnjih A reprezentativaca.

U vašoj selekciji bili su Jertec i Pokrivač. Hoće li Dinamu biti pojačanja?
- U Dinamu su se mnogi mladi igrači izgubili, ponajviše zbog toga što dovoljno dugo nije bilo starosjedilaca uz koje bi stasali, ali i zbog prevelikog pritiska. Najbolji primjer je Niko Kranjčar. Jertec i Pokrivač su nadareni, u Dinamu će ih jaka konkurencija tjerati na napredak i u perspektivi mogu biti pojačanja.

Je li 2007. Dinamovo europsko "sad ili nikad"?
- To "sad ili nikad" traje već godinama. U Dinamu postoje uvjeti i potencijali za europski rezultat, ali dva su velika problema: strašan pritisak uoči europskih nastupa, te nedostatak jakih utakmica. Ako 90 posto utakmica u sezoni igrate sa 60 posto snage, pa onda ne možete biti dobri u sudbinskoj utakmici. To se vidjelo u igri protiv Arsenala u Zagrebu. Uzvrat je bio neusporedivo bolji, jer pritiska nije bilo.

U rujnu novi ciklus
Ladićeva selekcija (do 21 godinu) najesen kreće u novi ciklus kvalifikacija za EP 2009. Igrat će mladići rođeni 1986. i mlađi, a suparnike saznat će u ožujku. Igrat će po starom sustavu, kao i A selekcije, dakle u skupini će biti najmanje šest reprezentacija. Kandidati će se uigravati na proljeće u utakmicama sa Slovačkom, Mađarskom i Italijom, a početkom sljedeće sezone odigrat će još jednu pripremnu utakmicu.

Nisam se udaljio od Dinama
Koliko ste blizu Dinama? - Nikada se i nisam od njega udaljio jer me previše toga veže uz taj klub. Samo se nisam slagao s nekim potezima u klubu. Međutim, na utakmice dolazim i dolazit ću. Hoćete li se angažirati u svom klubu? - Da bi ljudi mogli međusobno dobro funkcionirati, mora postojati dijalog, morate imati mogućnost kreacije. A tamo gdje je režim autokratski, teško je egzistirati jer se traži samo podobnost. Zbog toga ste odbili Mamićev poziv da budete trener vratara? - Bez podcjenjivanja toga posla, imam potencijal za neku važniju funkciju. Za prvog Dinamova trenera jednoga dana? - To se ne postaje nametanjem u novinama, nego radom. Ako ću se za to isprofilirati, ljudi će to uočiti.

Blast
January 4th, 2007, 12:43
Jos nisam dobio pravu priliku kod g. Loncarevica! :rollani: Vuce me i neka laksa povreda! Ali za Dvoransko Prvenstvo bit cu pravi! Tada cu dobit i svoju priliku, tako je rijec iz stozera! Volim igrat Futsal (indoor)! Bit ce to vam prilika da me vidite uzivo na HRT-u:nervous:! A za mladu reprezentaciju od 21 godina ima jos mnogo vrijemena, tek mi je 17 godina! :smileani: Tek slijedi novi izazov - U-19 NT, ako dobim poziv bit ce to uspijeh za mene! :hopefull:

Nisam gledao dvoransko majstore pa nam reci kako je bilo? >Jesi igrao dovoljno ili te sušio na klupi...?

Prof Balthazar
January 4th, 2007, 13:05
Ima li šanse za novoga dinamovca Tadića? Njega ste prošloga ljeta prekrižili.


Učinio sam to jer na najvažnijoj pripremnoj utakmici, s Italijom, kod Tadića nisam primijetio želju i ambicioznost. Poslije su mi rekli da dečko ima problema u Bayeru, da živi sam, ne igra... Pa zar sam takvoga igrača trebao zvati?

I would have thought that a youth coach would have pulled him aside for a chat, attempted to find out what is wrong, attempt to motivate the lad :frustrat:

MaidenMadness
January 4th, 2007, 14:47
Nisam gledao dvoransko majstore pa nam reci kako je bilo? >Jesi igrao dovoljno ili te sušio na klupi...?
koliko sam upoznat klub ga nije registrirao za natjecanje.

Blast
January 5th, 2007, 07:27
Ma sranje !!

Valjda ce bit bolje, Svaki igrac treba vremena da se probije, drzim fige!!

HajdukSplit
February 9th, 2007, 03:09
Croatia will be in Pot 2 for the U21 qualifers draw which takes place next week, the next tournament in 2009 will be in Sweden. Don't know if they changed the format of qualifying but they should, the last one was horrible, one game decided if you had a chance

the U17's beat Hungary in a friendly in Rovinj, 1:0

Mikinac, Celjak, Cagalj, Kramaric (od 35. Jonjic), Poljak, Petar, Horvat, Ivanovic, Maricic, Ozobic, Kokot (od 65. Bartulovic)
Izbornik: Ivan Gudelj

Lovro Mikinac, Niko Maricic, Ivan Horvat, Andrej Kramaric, Filip Ozobic - Dinamo Zagreb
Kazimir Poljak and Vedran Celjak - NK Zagreb
Stjepan Kokot - Varteks

the rest I couldn't find out, most of these guys were born in 1990 or 1991, boy do I feel old :pp

Ero
February 9th, 2007, 03:10
true...

BostonCroat
February 9th, 2007, 16:12
pozdrav decki, novi sam ovdje naletio sam slucajno na ovu temu!!

pozdrav svim hrvatima ma di bili!!

FORZA CROATIA

BostonCroat
February 9th, 2007, 16:15
zaboravih, za sve HRVATE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cPdWc8VV5Q&mode=related&search=

Orkan_Dugi Rat
February 10th, 2007, 19:58
Osijek: Ladiću, zašto ne gledaš svoje igrače!

Udinese je najjača i najskuplja momčad koja je tijekom ovih priprema igrala protiv nekog hrvatskog kluba. Dinamo, Hajduk i Rijeka nisu igrali s nekim sudionikom Lige prvaka, pa je susret Osječana sa zlatnim Talijanima sa SP-a Iaquintom i De Sanctisom i ostalim brojnim internacionalcima nekako ostao u nezasluženom medijskom zapećku. Još je manje opravdano što je prošao bez stručno-selektivne pozornosti. Gradski je vrt oduvijek rasadnik vrsnih izdanaka, ali je sve češće po strani.

Klupsko ogorčenje prenosi sportski direktor Alen Petrović: - Moj nekadašnji suigrač iz Dinama i izbornik mlade reprezentacije Dražen Ladić u srijedu navečer bio je u Rijeci na susretu Hrvatska - Norveška, ali je on ili netko od njegovih bližih suradnika lako mogao dan kasnije skočiti do tek 200 kilometara udaljenih Udina. Jer imalo se što vidjeti.

Kako se 17,5-godišnji Domagoj Vida i 20-godišnji Jurica Pranjić ravnopravno nose s Iaquintom, 19-godišnji Tomislav Šorša i Josip Knežević prijete trećem vrataru talijanske reprezentacije De Sanctisu, kako se plemeniti ljevak Marko Dinjar vraća u formu koja ga je i promovirala u zasad jedinog osječkog reprezentativca (do 21). I već "stari" 23-godišnjak Karlo Primorac postigao je pogodak i izluđivao Udinese, koji je u pravoj ratničkoj utakmici tek minutu prije kraja
izvukao pobjedu 2:1

I do feel bad for Slavonci, they seem to get a raw deal by the HNS at every level.

Plus another example of how bad Ladic is....:thmbdown:

Orkan_Dugi Rat
February 11th, 2007, 20:49
Darko Bodul: Zbog Hrvatske sam odbio Austriju i BiH

Uz Danijela Pranjica, u Heerenveenu igra jos jedan Hrvat. Rijec je o Darku Bodulu, iznimno talentiranom igracu, koji je 11. sijecnja napunio 18 godina, a koji igra za drugu i U-19 momcad tog nizozemskog prvoligasa, ciji je i najbolji strijelac. Darko Bodul je nedavno nekoliko dana boravio u Porecu, u kampu sa ostalim hrvatskim nogometnim nadama. Njegov nogometni put krece iz Beca, iz kluba Vienna, a prije tri godine uzeli su ga nizozemski lovci na talente, sa zeljom da taj talenat izbruse, iskoriste njegovu nogometnu nadarenost za svoju buducnost.

Kako vam je u Heerenveenu?
- Vrlo sam zadovoljan, vec sam starosjedilac, vec tri godine hranim se njihovim kruhom - kaze Darko Bodul.

Vidite li se s Danijelom Pranjicem?
- Naravno, svakodnevno se druzimo. Danijel i njegova supruga su super ljudi, druzeljubivi i biti s njima u drustvu pravo je zadovoljstvo. Maksimalno su korektni i odnose se prema meni kao prema mladjem bratu.

Cujemo da cete sljedece godine biti bez njihova drustva?
- Dobro poznajem situaciju u nizozemskoj igi i nasem klubu, pa mogu reci da je to realno za ocekivati. Pranjic je redovito jedan od najboljih igraca momcadi, prava zvijezda u klubu, zajedno s Alvesom. Izvrstan je igrac, igra u odlicnoj formi i prerastao je klupske ambicije i mogucnosti. Koliko znam, ponuda mu ne manjka i sigurno je da ce svoje nogometno umijece dobro unovciti.:)

Kakav je vas status?
- U lipnju prosle godine sam potpisao profesionalni ugovor, dvije plus dvije godine. Budem li zadovoljio, ostat cu u Heerenveenu, ne budem li, putevi ce nam se razici. Trenutacnim stanjem sam zadovoljan i daj Boze da me samo zdravlje sluzi. Uglavnom, ne sumnjam u svoju buducnost.

Austrijanci su vas takodjer zeljeli vidjeti u svojoj reprezentaciji i kukali su kako ste ih hladno odbili?
- Sto ja tu mogu. Slijedio sam osjecaje, moje srce kuca za Hrvatsku, austrijski izbornik naljutio se kad sam mu priopcio da ne zelim igarti za reprezenatciju Austrije. Jednom prilikom pitao me trener u klubu za koga cu igrati. I njemu sam odgovorio sto sam odlucio. Rekao mi je da sam dobro odabrao. Otkrit cu vam da su me i ljudi iz Nogometnog saveza Bosne i Hercegovine kontaktirali, zeleci me privoliti da igram za njihovu reprezentaciju posto su mi roditelji iz Kiseljaka. No, moja odluka je cvrsta - samo Hrvatska.

Koja je vasa pozicija u momcadi?
- Igramo sustav 4-3-3, a ja sam najcesce sredisnji napadac, no, mogu igrati i druge napadacke pozicije.Igrao sam nekoliko puta i sredisnjeg veznog.

Imate li nogometni uzor?
- Najdrazi mi je Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Nevjerojatno koliko je u Nizozemskoj popularan, iako je poodavno napustio Ajax.

Koje su vam nogometne zelje i planovi?
- San mi je igrati u kockastom dresu, postati reprezentativac Hrvatske. Volio bih naslijediti bracu Kovac, koji su uspjeli igrajuci nogomet u inozemstvu.

Tko vas je prije trenirao u hrvatskoj reprezenatciji?
- Bili su to Ivan Gudelj i Anel Karabeg. Ovom prilikom istaknut cu i da je tajnik HNS-a Zorislav Srebric stalno pratio moj nogometni put.

Vas stariji brat Dragan Bodul bio je talentirani nogometas, ali ipak nije uspio postici zapazeniju karijeru?
- Moj brat Dragan je mogao i morao postici mnogo vise. Igrao je za Hrvatski dragovoljac, za Brotnjo iz Citluka, a u Austriji je vrijedio za veliku nogometnu nadu. Medjutim, na svom je putu napravio neke pogreske koje su mu zasmetale da postane ono sto se od njega ocekivalo. Nazalost, tako je to, a ja cu, vjerujem, nadoknaditi sve ono sto je moj brat propustio - zakljucio je Darko Bodul.

Prof Balthazar
February 12th, 2007, 01:55
The sooner Ladic leaves his position as U-21 coach, the better it will be for HR nogomet !

HajdukSplit
February 12th, 2007, 02:49
I think that article is a bit harsh but I agree about Ladic, the man has no business managing the U21's, I would prefer a guy like Dalic, Jurcevic or even bring back Novoselac.

Though I find that NK Osijek article a bit harsh: first of all the guys they mentioned all play for some youth categories and are too young for the U21's and Ladic will have many chances to watch them in a real match, not some friendly (yeah I know it is against a good opponent but still friendly) Second, Dinjar was used by Ladic, and Primorac is too old

Also with the qualifying system, the U21 only got to play 2 matches in a year, not times to experiment, luckily UEFA changed their format

but overall, Ladic shouldn't be the manager, but that article is making a big deal over nothing really, they will get their chances, so what if Ladic didn't watch them?

dalmate
February 13th, 2007, 15:37
Here, the different group for under21 uefa chamionship... its a surprise :thumbsup: hehe
Qualification debut 2 june 2007-10 september 2008

Croatia is in the group 1

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/under21/news/kind=1/newsid=506135.html

HajdukSplit
February 13th, 2007, 16:06
good group, Italy will be tough but I think Croatia can do well in this group

dalmate
February 13th, 2007, 16:19
good group, Italy will be tough but I think Croatia can do well in this group


Yeah its a good group... :thumbsup:

Who is the players in the team under21?

LUKA17
February 13th, 2007, 17:06
Yeah its a good group... :thumbsup:

Who is the players in the team under21?

I think Pranjic plays at under 21(1 or 2 players that are older then 21 may play in that NT)

Suho
February 13th, 2007, 18:19
I think Pranjic plays at under 21(1 or 2 players that are older then 21 may play in that NT)

Not Danijel Pranjić...

HajdukSplit
February 13th, 2007, 21:25
Rukavina and Kalinic should spearhead the attack, though what defenders are there?! look around the HNL, no good young defenders except Corluka who is with the NT

but with Ladic in charge, I have my doubts also :rolleyes: realistically Croatia should finish in the top 2 even with maybe taking points off Italy. But Ladic, he hasn't won a serious match yet

HajdukSplit
February 14th, 2007, 01:43
Yeah its a good group... :thumbsup:

Who is the players in the team under21?

1986 and young for this generation (not 100% sure though, if its 85' and young then guys like Jertec, Pokrivac can play)

Dinamo: Filip Loncaric, Josip Tadic, Dejan Lovren, Vedran Corluka (NT)
Hajduk: Jurica Buljat, Ante Rukavina, Drago Gabric, Tomislav Busic
Rijeka: Anas Sharbini, Duje Bakovic
Varteks: Igor Prahic, Teo Kardum, Kristijan Ipsa,
NK Zagreb: Ivan Grgic, Mario Mandzukic,
Osijek: Marko Dinjar, Domagoj Vida, Jurica Pranjic, Josip Knezevic, Vedran Niksic, Tomislav Sorsa, Josip Barisic
Sibenik: Nikola Kalinic, Stipe Bacelic-Grgic
Kamen Ingrad: Tomislav Bozic, Marko Zelenika

*some others, can't remember some other young players but these are the guys born in 86 and younger

Possibly Ivan Rakitic, Darko Bodul and Ivo Ilicevic

spidey
February 14th, 2007, 02:24
good stuff split..:thumbsup: hopefully ilicevic gets a call..i doubt rakitic will as he is already for the swiss under 21..

HajdukSplit
March 1st, 2007, 23:49
the U17 and U19 draw for next season has been made today. In the current year only our U19's are still alive but they play in June

U17's
Group 8
Croatia
Hungary
Georgia
Bulgaria

U19's
Group 13
Italy
Croatia
Malta
Montenegro

top two teams make it, these matches will probably be played September/October 2007. The U19 group looks really nice ;)

Ero
March 2nd, 2007, 01:08
wow...funny to see Montenegro on its own.

HajdukSplit
March 2nd, 2007, 20:55
Croatia will play Italy on March 7th as part of the Alpe-Adria Cup. This is a big test, usually these matches aren't too important but Italy is in our U21 qualifying group for the 2009 Euro Championships

here is the squad:
Goalkeepers: Filip Loncaric (Dinamo Zagreb) Ivan Vargic (Vukovar '91)
Defenders: Manuel Pamic (Rijeka) Kristijan Ipsa (Varteks) Dejan Lovren (Inter Zapresic) Josip Misic (Kamen Ingrad) Igor Prahic (Varteks) Tomislac Bozic (Kamen Ingrad)
Midfielders: Ivan Begovic (Varteks) Miljenko Bosnjak (Drava Ptuj) Domagoj Duspara (Leoben) Drago Gabric (Hajduk Split) Mario Jurin (Hrvatski Dragovoljac) Marko Dinjar (Osijek)
Forwards: Ante Rukavina (Hajduk Split) Nikola Kalinic (Sibenik) Ivan Bacak (Kamen Ingrad) Mario Mandzukic (NK Zagreb) Gordan Vuk (Varteks)

spidey
March 2nd, 2007, 21:42
would someone please explain to me why they dont call ivo ilicevic???:frustrat:

MaidenMadness
March 2nd, 2007, 22:24
ladic said cause its a very brief gathering that he didn't want to call up anybody who plays abroad

50 Lipa
March 2nd, 2007, 22:40
ANYBODY ? they boy took part on 15bundesliga games this season and scored twice. When i look at the midfield Ladic called up i really can't see why there isn't place for Ilicevic.

spidey
March 2nd, 2007, 22:55
brief gathering what kind of bullshit excuse is that..this kid wants to play for hrvatska but if we keep not calling him he is not going to want to play for hrvatska..its not like he hasnt desrved a call up as 50 lipa has said..he has had a pretty solid season for bochum this year..i have watched him a couple of time and i was impressed with his technique..he is skinny though and does get easily pushed off the ball..still there should be no excuses on why he hasnt been called to play for the under 21's yet..

HajdukSplit
March 2nd, 2007, 23:44
ladic said cause its a very brief gathering that he didn't want to call up anybody who plays abroad

so then whats up with Duspara and Bosnjak? I know Bosnjak plays in Slovenia so its not a big deal but Duspara plays in a country further away than Germany :rollani:

Prof Balthazar
March 6th, 2007, 06:43
Croatia will play Italy on March 7th as part of the Alpe-Adria Cup. This is a big test, usually these matches aren't too important but Italy is in our U21 qualifying group for the 2009 Euro Championships

here is the squad:
Goalkeepers: Filip Loncaric (Dinamo Zagreb) Ivan Vargic (Vukovar '91)
Defenders: Manuel Pamic (Rijeka) Kristijan Ipsa (Varteks) Dejan Lovren (Inter Zapresic) Josip Misic (Kamen Ingrad) Igor Prahic (Varteks) Tomislac Bozic (Kamen Ingrad)
Midfielders: Ivan Begovic (Varteks) Miljenko Bosnjak (Drava Ptuj) Domagoj Duspara (Leoben) Drago Gabric (Hajduk Split) Mario Jurin (Hrvatski Dragovoljac) Marko Dinjar (Osijek)
Forwards: Ante Rukavina (Hajduk Split) Nikola Kalinic (Sibenik) Ivan Bacak (Kamen Ingrad) Mario Mandzukic (NK Zagreb) Gordan Vuk (Varteks)

Anyone know where the match is being played ?

HajdukSplit
March 6th, 2007, 22:21
tomorrow in Sassuolo (near Modena) at 15:00

Mario Jurin will not travel with the team, he had a minor injury and not worth risking, also looks like Josip Tadic got a late callup, because he is not on the list but he is in Ladic's plans for the lineup

4-3-1-2
Loncaric
Bozic - Ipsa - Misic - Pamic
Duspara - Gabric - Begovic
Bosnjak
Rukavina - Tadic

Some key players missing: Mandzukic, Kalinic (injured) Glavina and Bartulovic (club won't allow them to go) Ilicevic, Rakitic (unknown whether they will play for Croatia)

Prof Balthazar
March 7th, 2007, 00:45
tomorrow in Sassuolo (near Modena) at 15:00

Mario Jurin will not travel with the team, he had a minor injury and not worth risking, also looks like Josip Tadic got a late callup, because he is not on the list but he is in Ladic's plans for the lineup

4-3-1-2
Loncaric
Bozic - Ipsa - Misic - Pamic
Duspara - Gabric - Begovic
Bosnjak
Rukavina - Tadic

Some key players missing: Mandzukic, Kalinic (injured) Glavina and Bartulovic (club won't allow them to go) Ilicevic, Rakitic (unknown whether they will play for Croatia)

Cheers for the info.

I thought Kalinic wouldn't be there because he has been injured for a few weeks. As for Tadic, I am sure Ladic got a phone call from Maminjo about that :smileani:

Who is this Begovic chappy ?

Anyone know much about Duspara & Bosnjak ?

I think Rukavina & Tadic would make a good duo up front.

I assume the match won't be televised anywhere ?

HajdukSplit
March 7th, 2007, 00:54
Ivan Begovic, regular at Varteks, though don't know much about him

Domagoj Duspara is a former Dinamo Zagreb youth player (played in the same generation as Corluka and Loncaric) he currently plays in Poland though :googly:

I had to look up Miljenko Bosnjak and his story is pretty strange in terms of a career. He played in the 3.HNL for a club from Zagreb before signing in the Slovenian first division. He has 3 goals in the Slovenian league

About this generation in general, the forwards look really good and Gabric could be a good player but outside of that most of these guys are average HNL players

edit: also Ladic is not calling up Busic at all, no matter what form he is in, Ladic and Hajduk had problems when they had the winter camp

Prof Balthazar
March 7th, 2007, 02:15
Ivan Begovic, regular at Varteks, though don't know much about him

Domagoj Duspara is a former Dinamo Zagreb youth player (played in the same generation as Corluka and Loncaric) he currently plays in Poland though :googly:

I had to look up Miljenko Bosnjak and his story is pretty strange in terms of a career. He played in the 3.HNL for a club from Zagreb before signing in the Slovenian first division. He has 3 goals in the Slovenian league

About this generation in general, the forwards look really good and Gabric could be a good player but outside of that most of these guys are average HNL players

edit: also Ladic is not calling up Busic at all, no matter what form he is in, Ladic and Hajduk had problems when they had the winter camp

Yeah I read an article yesterday about Busic. I think that strikers like Rukavina, Tadic, Mandzukic & Kalinic are better than Busic (or have the potential to go further than him), but Busic has been scoring regularly recently and deserves to be in the squad.

Suho
March 7th, 2007, 05:26
One guy that interests me is Dejan Lovren. He's a Dinamo Zagreb player currently loaned out to Inter in the 2nd division and is playing regularly. I remember a couple years back he played in the U17 Euro Championships and by all reports was very impressive. I think he's also the youngest player ever to play for the Croatian U17's (he was 15). He could be one to watch in the next 2 or 3 years.

HajdukSplit
March 7th, 2007, 18:49
Italy won 2:1, Ladic was very unhappy after the match. Italy were the much better team in the first half, Begovic scored for Croatia at the hour mark and Italy got the winner in the 85th minute, similar to the Dinamo goal in the derby, a Croatian defender tried to dribble out of the box and lost the ball and they scored :rolleyes:

In 15 days Ladic says Rakitic, Spiranovic and Ilicevic will get the callup, but its up to them if they want to play for Croatia. (are they playing in the 24th or that week?)

Loncaric
Bozic - Ipsa - Misic - Pamic
Duspara - Gabric - Dinjar
Bosnjak
Rukavina - Tadic

Lovren, Begovic, Prahic, Bacak and Vuk also played

edit: so has Ladic won a game at all with the U21's? :lala: this generation I fear won't do any better

LUKA17
March 7th, 2007, 21:56
why does everyone wants Ilicevic in our national team? i mean he's 20 already and still isn't a regular player in Bochum besides if a Cro player wants to play in our NT than he should play in a sub-club but not clubs like Nurnberg or Bochum:S

And i can't judge Spiranovic because i didn't have seen nothing from him but the kid already said that he wants to play for Australia so why should he change his mind when Ladic is giving him a offer?

Rakitic-He must and he will play! i doubt that he will play for our youth team but he sure will play for the seniors!!

and last thing: Ladic should retire!

Prof Balthazar
March 8th, 2007, 01:00
why does everyone wants Ilicevic in our national team? i mean he's 20 already and still isn't a regular player in Bochum besides if a Cro player wants to play in our NT than he should play in a sub-club but not clubs like Nurnberg or Bochum:S


I think people want Ilicevic for the U-21s, not the senior team because he is not good enough to get a spot in the senior NT yet.

HajdukSplit
March 8th, 2007, 01:08
why not? Croatia is not a country which can just dispose players away, we need every player possible, we aren't Brazil where we don't mind missing out 10 (or whatever number) players because they have hundreds to take up those missing numbers

Ilicevic is playing in the Bundesliga, something many of the current U21's aren't doing, it can only help

Prof Balthazar
March 8th, 2007, 01:14
why not? Croatia is not a country which can just dispose players away, we need every player possible, we aren't Brazil where we don't mind missing out 10 (or whatever number) players because they have hundreds to take up those missing numbers

Ilicevic is playing in the Bundesliga, something many of the current U21's aren't doing, it can only help

I agree. But I don't think we should be begging or chasing players endlessly either (think Bilos & Rakitic).

Ilicevic is 20 and has had quite a few appearances in the Bundesliga this season, he has been playing far more regularly than say Drago Gabric has for Hajduk (they are the same age) and I think he would be a welcome addition to our U-21 NT.

HajdukSplit
March 8th, 2007, 01:18
also, you cannot just dismiss a guy, who knew in 2004 Petric was going to be our starting striker along with Eduardo in 2007?

that generation was probably our most talented in recent years and Petric I believe struggled to get into the team because of guys like Eduardo, Ljbojevic, Zahora but now he is better than Ljubo and Zahora combined

just shows you, you never know with these guys, some are late bloomers and some don't get proper chances at the youth levels

another good example is Budan

and Prof, I am not saying we should chase players, but if the player is interested, we shouldn't avoid them and ignore them

Ero
March 8th, 2007, 01:49
we lost to the zabari...2-1. Bad game from what I've read.

spidey
March 8th, 2007, 02:18
ilicevic has also scored 2 goals this season..he has some started games but he has mostly come off the bench..

Prof Balthazar
March 8th, 2007, 04:57
also, you cannot just dismiss a guy, who knew in 2004 Petric was going to be our starting striker along with Eduardo in 2007?

that generation was probably our most talented in recent years and Petric I believe struggled to get into the team because of guys like Eduardo, Ljbojevic, Zahora but now he is better than Ljubo and Zahora combined

just shows you, you never know with these guys, some are late bloomers and some don't get proper chances at the youth levels

another good example is Budan

and Prof, I am not saying we should chase players, but if the player is interested, we shouldn't avoid them and ignore them

I pretty much agree with you, especially the highlighted part.

As for young players, you never know how they will end up once they hit 22-24 and even later for defenders & goalkeepers. Plenty of teen stars disappear into obscurity later on.

If out of every U-21 cycle we can get 2 or 3 good players who are future NT material we have plenty of fresh blood to fill out the senior team ranks.

If we can get one high quality NT player from the youth sides every few years we are doing OK.

Blast
March 8th, 2007, 07:25
also, you cannot just dismiss a guy, who knew in 2004 Petric was going to be our starting striker along with Eduardo in 2007?

that generation was probably our most talented in recent years and Petric I believe struggled to get into the team because of guys like Eduardo, Ljbojevic, Zahora but now he is better than Ljubo and Zahora combined

just shows you, you never know with these guys, some are late bloomers and some don't get proper chances at the youth levels

another good example is Budan

and Prof, I am not saying we should chase players, but if the player is interested, we shouldn't avoid them and ignore them

Good post HS :thumbsup:

Tony K.
March 11th, 2007, 18:18
Rijeka pobjednik Kupa 2007

Hrvatski Kup 2007 - Juniori 88/89
NK Inter Zaprešić - HNK Rijeka 2:4
NK Varteks - NK Osijek 3:0
NK Inter Zaprešić - NK Varteks 2:1
HNK Hajduk - HNK Rijeka 1:0
NK Inter-Zaprešić - NK Osijek 1:1
HNK Hajduk - HNK Rijeka 1:0
HNK Hajduk - NK Osijek 0:0
NK Varteks - HNK Rijeka 1:1
NK Inter-Zaprešić - HNK Hajduk 4:2
HNK Rijeka - NK Osijek 2:1

ljestvica:
1. HNK Rijeka................................7
2. NK Inter-Zaprešić.......................7
3. HNK Hajduk...............................7
4. NK Varteks................................4
5. NK Osijek..................................2

Osijek je nastupao bez Šorše, Vide, Kneževića (prva ekipa), Tomića (ozljda), Pavića (ozljda), te menom (ozljda). Tako da neću bit spreman za prvi susret u slijedećem kolu.

NK19
March 11th, 2007, 19:09
YES!!!


Now If only I could get in :(


Hey, did you play, Toni? I didn't even get a chance as a sub >.>

Tony K.
March 11th, 2007, 19:45
YES!!!


Now If only I could get in :(


Hey, did you play, Toni? I didn't even get a chance as a sub >.>

Da, samo tekmu protiv Rijeke nisam igrao, zbog neke ozljede! :cry: Igrao sam odlicno na pripremama, i sada opet nova ozljeda! :scream:

Do you play soccer in Rijeka? :eek: Which team? What´s your Name? On XT we have two guys from Osijek. Your are the next one from Rijeka! :happy: :proud:

MaidenMadness
March 11th, 2007, 19:54
2 guys from osijek?

Tony K.
March 11th, 2007, 20:08
2 guys from osijek?

Yeah right! :pp Osijek is the best place to start a soccer career for young Aussies! :howler: The another guy who played for Osijek, left our team before the season!

NK19
March 12th, 2007, 19:17
Da, samo tekmu protiv Rijeke nisam igrao, zbog neke ozljede! :cry: Igrao sam odlicno na pripremama, i sada opet nova ozljeda! :scream:

Do you play soccer in Rijeka? :eek: Which team? What´s your Name? On XT we have two guys from Osijek. Your are the next one from Rijeka! :happy: :proud:

Nicholas Katić, u Hrvatskoj Nikola ;)

Za sada me ovaj majmun ne zove u igru, peder jedan... a ove mamine sinove koji se boje lopte poziva...

szövkap
March 12th, 2007, 20:54
Osijek rules! :) :party:

HajdukSplit
March 14th, 2007, 23:17
Drazen Ladic and his U21 team will play two matches next week. On Friday the 23rd they will play Slovakia and on Tuesday the 27th against Slovenia.

Ante Rukavina will not be availible for either match as he is with the "A" team.

Ladic says he will mainly keep the squad against Italy intact, though he will callup the youngster from Osijek Domagoj Vida

About Ilicevic and Rakitic...Rakitic is closer to Switzerland than Croatia, and Ladic is still unsure about him

Ivo Ilicevic the situation is much better. Ladic will call him up, if he is interested and it seems that he is

Ero
March 15th, 2007, 00:33
Rakitic is closer to switzerland?

dinamovac11
March 15th, 2007, 01:05
Ante Rukavina will not be availible for either match as he is with the "A" team.

What is better for Ante Rukavina. To play two matches for the under 21's or train with the senior NT with no chance of playing?

spidey
March 15th, 2007, 02:31
training with the senior team of course:pp ..seriously though i didnt know the under 21's were playing 2 games..he should play for the under 21's..
d11 i finally agree with you on something..:)

Blast
March 15th, 2007, 08:23
WTF is Ladic doing?? Unbeleivable, not calling up Rakitic, unbeleivable!!

LUKA17
March 18th, 2007, 17:01
Is Dejan Horvat (Werder Bremen) playing for our youth team? I think he only has a Croatian passport.

Licki Macak
March 18th, 2007, 19:29
Ladic is a retard and so is who ever gave him this team.

Whats the story with our U20 NT? Do we even have one?

HajdukSplit
March 18th, 2007, 20:53
Whats the story with our U20 NT? Do we even have one?

yes, but they don't play official matches, usually the team that plays in the Alpe-Adria Cup is a U20 team except Ladic last time used a real U21 squad

Licki Macak
March 18th, 2007, 22:54
This years U20 World Cup is going to be played in Canada. If you have Toronto FC season tickets I think you get into the games free. Thanksa God I didnt buy them since Cro doesnt have a team in the tourney

Prof Balthazar
March 19th, 2007, 02:51
What is better for Ante Rukavina. To play two matches for the under 21's or train with the senior NT with no chance of playing?

Now Mandzukic also won't be available for the U-21s, I guess Ladic will rely primarily on Tadic & Kalinic (who are both very capable youngsters IMO).

HajdukSplit
March 23rd, 2007, 14:40
Kalinic won't play today, he is slightly injured and they won't risk him, he could play in the midweek game against Slovenia

Today they play Slovakia, the game for some reason is being played in Lucko :googly:

Here is the squad Ladic chose (funny how he or whoever is making him pick these players say he won't pick players from abroad but there are 3 here)

Goalkeepers: Filip Loncaric (Dinamo) Ivan Vargic (Vukovar '91)
Defender: Manuel Pamic (Rijeka) Josip Misic (Kamen Ingrad) Tomislav Bozic (Kamen Ingrad) Kristijan Ipsa (Varteks) Dejan Lovren (Inter Zapresic)
Midfielders: Mario Jurin (Hrvatski Dragovoljac) Igor Prahic (Varteks) Ivan Begovic (Varteks) Marko Dinjar (Osijek) Domagoj Vida (Osijek) Miljenko Bosnjak (Drava, SLO) Domagoj Duspara (Leoben, POL) Drago Gabric (Hajduk) Denis Glavina (Dnipro, UKR)
Forwards: Ante Rukavina (Hajduk) Mario Mandzukic (NK Zagreb) Josip Tadic (Dinamo) Ivan Bacak (Kamen Ingrad)

the squad doesn't look all the bad really, only the manager is clueless, oh btw, Ruki and Mandzukic will play but as soon as the match is over they will return to the A team

LUKA17
March 23rd, 2007, 17:36
so what's the score? The match should be over soon and i can't imagene Slovakia win but you never know with Ladic and our youth team