Hi guys, I was reading this forum lately and one post made me think about being a member and could not resist tonight and signed up for it.
That post that i was just talking about was a question in one of the topics...Someone was asking if Karsiyaka and Goztepe is pulling Barca numbers why they are still in the 2nd division?
Well....high level info can be "deadly rivalry"
As you may all know, Karsiyaka and Goztepe resides on two side of Izmir gulf..Or you may say North and the south….or just like we say : 35 bucuk and tam 35
Back in 1980 Karsiyaka lost the 2nd division championship to Goztepe in goal difference. But Karsiyaka fans believe that Goztepe cheated, fixed the games and referees. Well, it cannot be proven but simply that’s what we believe…Since then hate between two fans grew, grew and grew…since 80 more than 20-30 fans got killed before, during or after the games and city is now horrified because its not even rivalry anymore…Its more like an organized crime groups so called fan clubs
Karsiyaka’s fan club is called “Carsi”, Goztepe has mainly two : Yali and Tepecik. Yali is softer, Tepecik travels to hurt…
Karsiyaka’a Carsi is one of the most feared group. It may not be known as well as Ultras, Besiktas Carsi or GFB but its simply because Turkish Media do not care about Izmir…They have no limits in terms of good and bad things…One day they donate 10,000 USD to schools for education, an another day members of Carsi can stick the knife to anyone pretty easily….
You may say why the heck you are bad mouthing or publicizing bad behavior? But actually, my goal was to show you why they are not in 1st division….
Fans costed two teams a lot of damage..Now Karsiyaka is in division 2 and Goztepe is in the Division 4!!!
Two teams can still play front of 80,000 fans..but fans bad behaviors made investors to stay away from the management due to pressure from fan clubs demanding free buses to away games, free tix to games, blah blah free blahs…So no money…Also all those troubles in stands and off stands came back as 3 games suspension, 5 games suspensions, game in closed doors, games in different fields rather than home field and that’s where we are now….
Oooookey now….this is why….this is only one part of the answer,,,,,But lets see those fans now…lets see who am I talking about….how’bout that??
Start with KARSIYAKA:
This one is straight from hand camera recording ….My friend taped this from USA channel TLC. Program’s name: Sports disasters !! Game: Karsiyaka – Goztepe : 5-2
This one is from last year when Karsiyaka fans were watching sports program on TV, they did not like the comments about Karsiyaka fans that commentators made and they decided to talk to them face to face when program was on air live…pretty scary :
This one is pretty hard for me to watch….everytime I watch this one, my heart gets broken all the time….its about 3-4 years ago when we played the div 1promotion final game at natural field against Adana Demir. We dominated that game but ufortunalty lost the game in overtime with a golden goal and could not be promoted to div 1. Its also about that year end championship game build up:
2006-2007 training camp: DAY 1: players and some fans:
Karsiyaka fans @ basketball game : Away arena in Izmir:
Karsiyaka basketball fans @home:
Karsiyaka fans in Istanbul fighting with cops:
ooopd….its almost 3 am….going to find the others later…these were the one most handy….But these are nothing compared with other shows….these ones are without flares and these are not from big games…..If I get a chance to upload some of the files that I have, I will surely put it here…
Of course..Goztepe clips will be here too…
Bye guys and lads…