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post #1 of 723 (permalink) Old June 8th, 2016, 21:23 Thread Starter
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Crvena zvezda - Sezona 2016/17

Time for a new thread for a new season after a very successful season for both our football and basketball teams (not to mention many of our other sporting sectors).

For the first time in almost a decade we will be competing to join Europe's elite in the Champions' League. We will be seeeded in the 2nd round but due to our extremely poor coefficient we won't be in the remaining rounds.




We couldn't have had a better start by signing Grof to a 2 year extension to finally have some stability after many years of turbulence.

We've also been active in the transfer market already and the following players have been signed:

Adam Mitchell - New Zealand - Centre Back - 20 years old - Free Transfer - 1+2 year contract deal

He signed after an impressive 3 week trial




Stefan Milosevic - Left Back - 21 years old - Signed from Spartak - €300k + 30% of next sale - 4 year contract




He'll no doubt be a replacement for Lucho Ibanez when it's his time to leave. Milosevic has real potential and was a member of the U20 World Cup Winning squad last year.

Thomas Phibel - France - Centre Back - 30 years old - Free transfer from Mordovia - 2 year contract



He is expected to lead the Defensive line and already knows both Donald and Le Tallec well.


It would appear that Uros Djurdjevic is also making his way home after an injury ravaged time at Palermo. Nothing official but it does look like he'll be signing a 3 year deal with us. This could very well be a fantastic signing for the club!



In addition to Djurdjevic joining we are waiting for Cukaricki's response to an offer made for Andrija Pavlovic. It looks like Cuka are ready to do business and the player has already expressed a desire to join the club. Fantastic bit of business that should mean we don't feel the absence of Hugo when he does leave the club.




In addition to this Kahriman is due to sign a new deal to keep him at the club whilst rumours persist about us signing Filip Stojkovic as Marko Petkovic believe it or not is being linked with a move to Fiorentina.


Away from the sporting side the official website is looking much much better, although it would be good if they could bring in an English language section so it's accessible to non Serbian people.

http://www.crvenazvezdafk.com

The sale of season tickets has also already been announced, earlier than in recent years in another sign that the club is making strides to become more professional.


I like what we've done with the transfers so far...it could yet get better. It's important that the signings are mostly with the club before pre-season starts and it looks like the club are on their way to fulfilling that objective.

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post #2 of 723 (permalink) Old June 9th, 2016, 23:42
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Looks like we've signed Djurdjevic and lost out on Pavlovic.

Currently this is what we look like;

GK: Kahriman, Manojlovic, Vicic.

DR: Petkovic, Cvetkovic.
DC: Phibel, Mitrovic (probable), Lukovic, Rendulic, Stojanovic, Mitchell, Pavicevic.
DL: Ibanez, Milosevic.

DMC: Le Tallec, Racic.
MC: Donald, Ristic.
AMC: Plavsic, Babunski.

W: Katai, Srnic, Djurdjevic (probable), Gavric.

S: Hugo, Orlandic, Sikimic, Joveljic.

Positions we're currently trying to reinforce - right back (if Petkovic leaves), central defender (Mitrovic is probable), central attacking midfielder (Kanga has been mentioned) and a striker (depending when Hugo decides it's time to move on).

I'd like to think we'd also get one more winger given Katai might leave this summer as well.

One huge positive for me is that none of the starters from last season are leaving. That is a crucial, crucial piece to building chemistry. Also, the manager is the same as at the start of last season. When was the last time that happened?

ZGAZI IH SVE!

On a side note I'll be attending all Zvezda (home and away games) in August so anyone up for going to the European qualifiers please reach out. Last time I went to European qualifiers for Zvezda was in Cyprus and that turned out well. Hoping to get something similar this time.

p.s. The player that will take the team by storm this season is Racic. I like his profile a lot. Reminds me of a very raw version of Grujic. Kid is also from Kraljevo, a place that has given us many strong athletes...

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Robi was the last but these two are the only two since Filipovic.

Andrija Lukovic being mentioned as a new signing. Not sure what to make of that one, could be good but he's not exactly played lately?

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Looks like Kanga has fallen away as an option.

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Apparently Andrija Lukovic's signing is imminent. He was at Rajko Mitic with his agent Pantelinho agreeing terms yesterday it seems.

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Zirbes signed with Maccabi Tel Aviv

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Hugo most likely signing for Olympique Marseille according to O Jogo. Fee around €1,5-2 million..

Notícia O JOGO: Hugo Vieira é reforço do Marselha

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Miller signed with Maccabi as well.

We're also being heavily linked with Zagorac & Milutinov the last couple of days. They'd be big signings for us.

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Hugo most likely signing for Olympique Marseille according to O Jogo. Fee around €1,5-2 million..

Notícia O JOGO: Hugo Vieira é reforço do Marselha

This comes after everyone at the club saying we're not sellin anyone until after the qualifiers.

Guess we'll see. Bit of a rubbish sum given his season with us as well.

Surely we'd want to keep him until We know where we're at re Europe.

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Fully agree. The club might be forced to persuade him to stay though. It's a really good opportunity to revive his career outside the minor footballing countries even if OM is a club in permanent crisis.

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If he's not owed wages he can't go anywhere.

Maybe come to some agreement that he can leave in August.

Club have come out and said he's not for sale.

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It wouldn't be the first time that our management says one thing and does the opposite.

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No of course.

Anything over €2m when we got him on a free and at his age is a good deal but I'd much rather keep hold of him until we know where we're at.

We're being linked to a whole host of foreigners at the minute. Not sure if it's just the media chucking names out there like they like to do.


Pre-season started on Monday by the way:



For once we have a reasonably settled squad that's got a fair bit of quality. I don't think the situation is as drastic as is made out sometimes by the media/fans about how many signings we need. This team showed it was better than Partizan yet they pushed relatively far in Europe last season.

We probably need a bit more depth to hold out for a long first part of the season but that will depend on whether we make the group stages or not.

I'd also expect us to play deeper in Europe and so our Defence shouldn't be as exposed as it has been at times. When we dropped a bit deeper vs Partizan at times it looked very good and they didn't really create too much against us.

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I think the whole team will stay. Terzic understands how football works and I'm pretty sure he is convinced the offers will still be there after the European qualifiers. The only way any of our players leave before the Champions League qualifiers is if an offer comes in that's hard to refuse. For example, if Marseille offered 5-6 million for Hugo then I'd consider it because that could mean our budget would be secure for the coming season. However if it's 1-2 million then no, refuse and move forward.

I really do believe in this team, this coach, and the atmosphere created within the team. I firmly believe we will have a set starting 11 come July 12th. I'm laughing at all of these people on the RSB boards being critical of management that we're not moving fast enough. I can't believe how critical people still are. We've just witnessed one of the greatest seasons in our history, beat our neighbor home and away, and reinforced the center back position (our most weak aspect) and people still complain. They need to remember what kind of economics the club is dealing with and be grateful. I certainly am. People need to think and remember where the club was 6-7 years ago. Only then can you fully see how big of an accomplishment this past season was. We can't get the club back to where it was pre 2008 overnight.

Samo napred. Patience is key.

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I think people are underestimating the team we already have.

Yes it's not perfect but a settled, fully fit, well motivated and well coached side can go a long way. There's also a fair bit of talent there too.

I actually think we might look pretty good in Europe because we've got some players who can be very dangerous on the counter.

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Hugo was back in training today. He said he wants to play CL football with us...we'll see if that happens or not.

Busy day for our club transfer wise today, RSB Forum has provided the following:

Vanja Vucicevic - Cukaricki - 18 years old - Forward - Free transfer



He's signed a deal after not being able to agree a deal with Cukaricki. He's apparently a big prospect and obviously one for the future.


Marko Poletanovic - Gent - 23 years old - midfield - 1 year loan deal with option to buy



He'll add depth to the midfield. He played for Vosa, was their captain but would appear to be another player who has had struggles abroad.

Another one who has struggled is...

Andrija Lukovic - PSV - 21 years old - Midfield - Free transfer




Those 3 would appear to be completed transfers. In addition to those 3 Serbian players it would appear we are close to signing the following foreign ones.

Guelor Kanga - Rostov - 25 years old - Attacking midfield - free transfer



He's also a Gabon international having been capped by his country a total of 12 times.

Finally looks like we've also brought in a winger/forward in the form of...

John Ruiz Dnipro - 22 years old - Winger/Forward - Free transfer



He'sa also played for Lille and represents Costa Rica at international level...


In addition to this we're still awaiting the signing of Uros Djurdjevic and Milan Mitrovic. Just waiting both of them to finalise their contract terminations with their clubs.

That should bring an end to the transfer window, unless anyone else was meant to leave.

Looks like we're pretty serious at making a push in Europe this season.

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Valletta (Malta) or B36 (Faroe Islands) for Zvezda in the second qualifying round for the Champions League after the draw at UEFA:s headquarters in Nyon today. The games will be played 12-13 of July and 18-19 of July and Zvezda's starting away from home.

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A nice draw given some of the sides we could have faced in the second round.

We should get through this round quite comfortably which will allow us to bed our new signings in and have a couple of competitive games in the process.

The 3rd round is the big one though. We win that and we've got group stages guaranteed.


Do you know much about these potential new signings Zoric? I can't say I've seen any of them but Lukovic play really.

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I remember John Ruiz well from the U20 World Cup in Colombia five years ago where he was Costa Rica's best player alongside Joel Campbell. Good counter attacking player at the time. More of a quick player with decent ability to beat his opponents through pace than a winger who was good 1-on-1 back then and dangerous when he got the ball with a lot of space on the pitch. He was linked with some really big clubs back then and I even remember Barcelona made an offer for him to play for Barcelona B. Could definitely be an interesting pick up, perhaps a Hugo Vieira but Hugo had more personal issues than perhaps a lack of consistency on the pitch. Haven't seen him in a good while though.

Poletanović was a pretty good box-to-box midfielder while at Voša. He played quite a bit with Radoja back then but I always thought Radoja was the player who looked the better. Pretty tall, decent ability to join attacks in the second wave, a solid ball winning midfielder as well. Interesting player for our standards. They know him very well at Zvezda though.

As for the Kanga: never seen him as far as I'm aware. Never seen Vučićević either.

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Thanks Zoric.

I thought there'd be more excitement about Zvezda playing in the CL Qualifiers for the first time since 2007 on here but I guess not...

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