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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old June 14th, 2003, 18:30 Thread Starter
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What we should do to batigoal9forever ???

He talks bad about the Greeks, check it out.
http://www.xtratime.com/forums/showt...31#post1551131

Originally posted by batigoal9forever
well you can say he is good for a crappy championship like the greek one

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post #2 of 41 (permalink) Old June 14th, 2003, 19:19
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Astone Paniliake, everybody is entitled to their own opinion even if we dont agree with it. I think our league is actually very very good. We are the 6th best in Europe and 7th in the World and all with a populaiton of 10,000,000. Once the new stadiums are done we'll be even better. Our players could play in any league in Europe garaunteed.
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ego leo pisa kai poupoupa......ti einai ayta re???? ti einai ayta pou les re paniliake...poio protathlima ehei i ellada pou tha mou tin pis kiolas.....den ksero ta statistika alla mporei kai ama valeis kato ta noumera i fiorentina stin c2 tis italias na kopse perisotera isitiria apo olo to eliniko protathlima.... akou eliniko proathlima.....pou i hal stin 3 aglias kovei se enan agona osa kovoun ta aigalea kai oi proodeutikes se olokliro to protatlima
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Out of curiosity Mr Italy, could you perhaps tell us which 16 teams you'd like to see in the Greek top division to make it worthwhile?

Lets just keep Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, PAOK, Aris, Iraklis, Xanthi, OFI, and let you select the other 8 from anywhere other than the two big cities....

I have pondered with the idea myself, but could never come up with a scenario where any of the "other" teams could win anything if the league was composed like that.
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dikaiwma tou na grafei to ellhniko prwta8lhma sta arxidia tou....opws einai kai dikaiwma sas na grapsete ton ''ellhnara'' sta dika sas ta arxidia mi treleneste!!

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gavros7 is right. let this yianitsaro who likes argentina and not his own country (if indeed he is greek) its a free world, but we are used to it. and if our league is sh!t cuz all the teams or most of them are from athens, the does the epl suck too cuz of the amount of teams from london? but i love it when our crappy teams from our crappy championship beat the big teams in europe, and they cant understand why!
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nai nai koimithite to gliko ipno tou patriotismou...fovero to protatlima....

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Out of curiosity Mr Italy, could you perhaps tell us which 16 teams you'd like to see in the Greek top division to make it worthwhile?
hmm as kano mia prospatia...as poume larisa na nai i mia kali mou akougete......pierikos na einai i alli kali mou akougete kai ayti.....tora pou to skeftomai otan imoun mikros ipirhe kai mia omada pou tin legan doksa dramas ..orea...na baloume kai ta gianena..tetios laos ma min ehei omada stin a kai na ehei to ionikaki.....tora an thimamai kala i kastoria ehei pari kai ena kipelo....toso oraia nisia ehei i patrida sas na min ehoume kai mia rodo.... na pame kai ligo pio kato tora as poume mia apo tis panahaiki,kalamata i paniliako...as vgaloume ton paniliako giati einai omadoula...as paroume panahaiki pou ehei i istoria....e gia na min leme kai oti theloume o panionios aksizei na nai stin a .....opote ego pou pragmatika eimai ashetos oson afora to eliniko podosfero vrika merikes ..fantasou aftoi pou kseroun

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gavros7 is right. let this yianitsaro who likes argentina and not his own country (if indeed he is greek) its a free world, but we are used to it. and if our league is sh!t cuz all the teams or most of them are from athens, the does the epl suck too cuz of the amount of teams from london? but i love it when our crappy teams from our crappy championship beat the big teams in europe, and they cant understand why!
akou palikari isos mperdepse ta forum....den nomizo na einai to forum tis hrisis aygis edo..ante pane ki8niga kana metanasti kompexike

proton mia pou eho genithi se ayto to meros tipika mporeis na pis oti eimai elinas....prosopika den dilono tipota....oles tis simaies kai ola ta etni ta eho gramena ekei pou kses

to ksera oti tha vrethei enas grafikos na ferei to paradeigma tou aglikou protathlimatos(pou prepei na einai to monadiko sovaro protatlima stin europi pou simbainei ayto)alla ti ?prepei na apantiso tora...?bres tin mikroteri omada tou londinou kai sigrine ta eisitiria tis me oles tis omades apo tis geitonies tis athinas kai pane kane ena galop na deis ti omada dilonoun stin agliki gitonia kai ti stin athinaiki

kai fisika anafereis tis megales epitihies tou eliniou podosferou sto eksoteriko....me ton protathliti enois???megali epitihia na kaneis olon ton kosmo na gelai...i galata sikose uefa ..i porto sikose...alla ksehasa oi elinikes den asholounte me uefaki....ehoun varethei tis epitihies..

p.s yianitsaros ti einai ??autos pou einai apo ta gianena?
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I bet your hopping for Armenia to beat Greece right?

Off to Canada where Ferrari will win like normal!

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Talk about a storm in a teacup, this has got to be one tragic thread.

@ Paniliakos- if you read the post he's not talking bad about Greeks in general, he's just putting a point across that the Greek league ain't exactly great. I think there is a diffirence there.

@ Boston- whether the statistics bear out that the league is 7th best in the world or not, the fact remains that all but two clubs face daunting financial problems. Add to this the fact that clubs from "lesser" leagues such as Turkey, Holland and Portugal have won the UEFA Cup in recentyears whilst the best we could do is make the quarter finals and that standing should fall soon. Furthermore, if you were to ask someone in a street in Mogadishu as to the best 10 leagues in the world, chances are Greece wouldn't be mentioned. put simply, we don't have that impression. You could be right re: stadiums, NT and players in other leagues, but time will tell whether you're right or not.

@ AEK1924- so if a bloke likes watching Argentina play that makes him a "gianitsaro" right? Well, in that case there must be plenty in Greece given that a heaps of them were following the fortunes of Brazil in the WC last year. Besides his Greek seems okay to me plus theres a good case that he has also done military service as well. He doesn't have to tell the world how proud he is to be Greek does he?

@ batigol9forever- the Greek league isn't in the best of shape, most would agree. But then isn't that more or less the case throughout the world. Being a Fiorentina (ain't calling it by that other name, Cecchi Gori can get stuffed and return the name to the club if he had any decency left in him) fan you would know this better than most I would imagine. Sure they get bigger crowds than the Greek league does on a given weekend, but they also get bigger crowds than all but a hndful o clubs in Serie A. Perhaps that's an indication as to the credibility of the Italian League but that is to be discussed elsewhere me thinks.
I too agree that the league would be better served if there weremore of the likes of Giannina and Larissa than Kallithea and Halkidons, but the fact remains that these clubs are ill managed and lack a wealthy benefactor to help them realise their full potential. It is a sad fact, but it is also the harsh reality of Greek football at present.


I will keep this thread going, but guys try to make it constructive rather than one that is based on personal insults. Otherwise I will be left with no option but to close it.

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@ batigol9forever- the Greek league isn't in the best of shape, most would agree. But then isn't that more or less the case throughout the world. Being a Fiorentina (ain't calling it by that other name, Cecchi Gori can get stuffed and return the name to the club if he had any decency left in him) fan you would know this better than most I would imagine. Sure they get bigger crowds than the Greek league does on a given weekend, but they also get bigger crowds than all but a hndful o clubs in Serie A. Perhaps that's an indication as to the credibility of the Italian League but that is to be discussed elsewhere me thinks.
epeidi isoun kaloproerretos kai akougese apolita logikos antropos na mai kai ego kaloproeretos...prota apo ola i fiorentina einai pleon kai episimos i fiorentina edo kai merikes bdomades..(opote o mpatatoudis tis italias na pai na...)....deuteron opos les kai esi den eipa kai tipota tromero ...mia alithia eipa kai pragmatika aporo me ayta ta paidia....diladi ti prothatlima nomizoun oti ehei i elada???aytoi den ehoun akousei oti oi perisoteres omades ehoun asteio meso oro eisitirion(mporei kai 3psifio)....oti to megalitero gipedo -tou paok-horaei 25000 kosmo kai genika ta gipeda einai ahouria....tous paragontes den mporeis na tous piaseis apo pouthena giati tha lerotheis(o vasilakis ta elege prohtes)....gia hronia vasileue i paraga.....an eksereseis merikes omades kathe hrono den blepeis pouthena theama....gia 7 hronia vlepoume to idio ergo(sta pio pola to kserame to telos se merika ohi)kai pano apo ola mia gitonia tis athinas ehei teseris omades...diladi ti allo prepei na ehei ena protathlima( i na min ehei kalitera) gia na mporo na to haraktiriso crappy eidika otan iparhei mia emesi sigrisi me to italiko(pou oso pesmena kai na einai ta noumera kai ekei einai "ierosilia" na ta sigrinoume
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Re patriotes na sas po thn alithia ego syfono poli me ton batigol9forever ola ta themata pou exei milise edo eine alithia prepei na to paradektoume exei dikio o batigol9forever, to thema eine oti emis h ellines den mas aresi na akoume thn alithia.
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Re patriotes na sas po thn alithia ego syfono poli me ton batigol9forever ola ta themata pou exei milise edo eine alithia prepei na to paradektoume exei dikio o batigol9forever, to thema eine oti emis h ellines den mas aresi na akoume thn alithia.
I alitia ine pos o Batigol ipe kapia prgmata pou simfono ke ego...ke kataba9os oli ta pisteuoume...alla nomizo pos ine iperbolikos. Fisika ke to elliniko prota8lima de sigkrinete me to Italiko i to Ispaniko...alla den ine ke tos kako. Idika meta tous Olimpiakous pou 8a exoume orea gipeda...8a anaba8misti poli. To epipedo den ine toso xamilo oso lei o filos, ke blepoume arketes fores kalo 8eama. ke iparxoun kali podosferistes pou mpori na pexoun se ola ta prota8limata tou kosmou.
Emena omos ayto pou de mou aresi eine pos o filos Bati den ine iper tis e8nikis omadas...malista an katalaba kala ipe pos 8a i8ele na pame sto Euro gia na xeftilistoume pali. Dld file de sou aresi na blepis tin Ethniki omada na kani epitixies?






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I believe you assume too much about batigol kingl. I don't see anything that indicates he does not root for the national team. And even if he did imply that, it seems more to me as a reaction to the authoritarian tone of some people here.

And in case it is his full right and choice to support or not support the national team and consider the greek league crap or good. It is not for anyone to judge him or determinate his "Greekness". He is entitled to his opinion and he should be able to express it without people being all over him.

This topic is a disgrace.

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I alitia ine pos o Batigol ipe kapia prgmata pou simfono ke ego...ke kataba9os oli ta pisteuoume...alla nomizo pos ine iperbolikos.
Fisika ke to elliniko prota8lima de sigkrinete me to Italiko i to Ispaniko...alla den ine ke tos kako. Idika meta tous Olimpiakous pou 8a exoume orea gipeda...8a anaba8misti poli. To epipedo den ine toso xamilo oso lei o filos, ke blepoume arketes fores kalo 8eama. ke iparxoun kali podosferistes pou mpori na pexoun se ola ta prota8limata tou kosmou.
Emena omos ayto pou de mou aresi eine pos o filos Bati den ine iper tis e8nikis omadas...malista an katalaba kala ipe pos 8a i8ele na pame sto Euro gia na xeftilistoume pali. Dld file de sou aresi na blepis tin Ethniki omada na kani epitixies?
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I alitia ine pos o Batigol ipe kapia prgmata pou simfono ke ego...ke kataba9os oli ta pisteuoume...alla nomizo pos ine iperbolikos.
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Fisika ke to elliniko prota8lima de sigkrinete me to Italiko i to Ispaniko...alla den ine ke tos kako. Idika meta tous Olimpiakous pou 8a exoume orea gipeda...8a anaba8misti poli. To epipedo den ine toso xamilo oso lei o filos, ke blepoume arketes fores kalo 8eama. ke iparxoun kali podosferistes pou mpori na pexoun se ola ta prota8limata tou kosmou.
Simfono den prepei na sigkrinoume to Elliniko protathlima me to Italiko, Ispaniko, Aggliko. Giati autes h xores exou to xrima pou emeis den to exoume.
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Emena omos ayto pou de mou aresi eine pos o filos Bati den ine iper tis e8nikis omadas...malista an katalaba kala ipe pos 8a i8ele na pame sto Euro gia na xeftilistoume pali. Dld file de sou aresi na blepis tin Ethniki omada na kani epitixies?
O batigol9forever den nomizo na eipe tipota kako gia thn ethniki omada mono gia to Elliniko protathima.

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Emena omos ayto pou de mou aresi eine pos o filos Bati den ine iper tis e8nikis omadas...malista an katalaba kala ipe pos 8a i8ele na pame sto Euro gia na xeftilistoume pali. Dld file de sou aresi na blepis tin Ethniki omada na kani epitixies?
se ayto eimai ksekatharos ...ontos den ipostirizo tin etniki ellados....se etnikes ipostirizo tin argentini kai sta euro na hame na legame tin italia...auto bgainei apo mia genikoteri stasi zois...as poume oti i leksi patrida ohi apla den einai psila stin klimaka ton aksion mou alla den yparhei.....pos na to kanoume ??nai iparhoume kai emeis pou den kanoume tetious diahorismous(mporei na fenete parakseno se antrpopous san ton paniliako i ton aekelinara alla ti na kanoume afou den ta niotho mesa mou ayta ta pragmata)....

tora oson afora to allo to uponooumeno pou afisa ..peri kseftilismatos klp..itan apla ena proklitiko sholio se antropous edo mesa pou mou feronte proklitika...i etniki tis eladas einai opos oles ethnikes tou kosmou gia mena. me afinei adiaforo...ama peksei kai me tin germania as poume pou tin antipatho os etniki tin ipostirizo tin elada den eho provlima

kai den pisteuo oti me ta gipeda pou tha minoun apo 2004 tha allaksei kati drastika.....kai 16 old traford na eihe ..poios tha ta gemize.......koitakse theoro ena gemato gipedo enan apo tous vasikoterous paragontes gia na ginei ena oreo paihnidi....prosopika(kai den ksero pos niothete eseis) kai real -man u(pou theorounte apo tis pio theamatikes) na paize sta damaria tou virona den to vlepa...opos episis den tha goustara na to do oute kan se ena adio bernabeu

kai apo theama pisteuo se elahista paihnidia..to pio theamatiko fetino itan to aek -paok alla den to idame giati den ithele o agapoulas.....kai gia tous paihtes pou ipes oti mporoun poloi apo aytous na peksoun pantou den diafono..alla na mas to apodeiksoun kiolas...ohi mono frape kai paraliaki
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bottom line is that some strong comments have been made here, mine especially, was just avery offended and took the comments to heart. bati can say what he wants, but must understand that there is a large greek community here too, so those comments will get a reaction. no offense to anyone, signomi!
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bottom line is that some strong comments have been made here, mine especially, was just avery offended and took the comments to heart. bati can say what he wants, but must understand that there is a large greek community here too, so those comments will get a reaction. no offense to anyone, signomi!
simfono shedon se ola mazi sou......pou diafono??ekei pou les oti must understand that there is a large greek community auto den to katalava....diladi ti prepei na kanoume na glifoume aytia ...na leme ti orea pou einai ola...den pisteyo oti imoun se kapoia periptosi proklitikos(ektos apo tis periptoseis pou proklithika) kai apo oti ida se pola apo osa eipa pola pedia simfonoun
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Edo eine h apantisi paidia......gia mena den eine parakseno xero polou pou den theloune na akoune gia podosfero.

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se ayto eimai ksekatharos ...ontos den ipostirizo tin etniki ellados....se etnikes ipostirizo tin argentini kai sta euro na hame na legame tin italia...auto bgainei apo mia genikoteri stasi zois...as poume oti i leksi patrida ohi apla den einai psila stin klimaka ton aksion mou alla den yparhei.....pos na to kanoume ??nai iparhoume kai emeis pou den kanoume tetious diahorismous(mporei na fenete parakseno se antrpopous san ton paniliako i ton aekelinara alla ti na kanoume afou den ta niotho mesa mou ayta ta pragmata)....
O batigoal9forever sas leei thn alithia pos niothi, tha fani poli parakseno se polous Elline alla auth eine h alithia fili mou.
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I believe you assume too much about batigol kingl. I don't see anything that indicates he does not root for the national team. And even if he did imply that, it seems more to me as a reaction to the authoritarian tone of some people here.

And in case it is his full right and choice to support or not support the national team and consider the greek league crap or good. It is not for anyone to judge him or determinate his "Greekness". He is entitled to his opinion and he should be able to express it without people being all over him.

This topic is a disgrace.

Well said.


People have opinions, leave it be.


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