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post #41 of 66 (permalink) Old February 26th, 2012, 16:24
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the thing i I think it is out of print. There is Viagem ao Redor de Pele, Historia do Foot-ball, and Negro no futebol brasileiro, which ends with a chapter about 1958 team.

In doubt, go to www.estantevirtual.com.br and search for his books. Almost all brazilian sebos are there.

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I need books that chronicle the history of South American football. English, please.
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Didn't find any Mario Filho or Nelson Rodrigues in english, but the uruguayan Eduardo Galeano is avaliable:

http://www.amazon.com/Football-Sun-S...0282783&sr=8-2

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I need books that chronicle the history of South American football. English, please.
South Americans aren't english-born speakers/writers :undecide:
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Didn't find any Mario Filho or Nelson Rodrigues in english, but the uruguayan Eduardo Galeano is avaliable:

http://www.amazon.com/Football-Sun-S...0282783&sr=8-2
Read that one, though I don't remember much of it, so maybe I should have another go? If I remember right, it's very prose-like, while I prefer dull fact. Also have read the Alex Bellos Brazil-book.

Oh well, maybe I'll just learn some spanish.

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South Americans aren't english-born speakers/writers :undecide:
That's what translations are for.
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ah, you got me when you said chronicle. Maybe if it is pure stats, you wont need so much the translations.

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ah, you got me when you said chronicle. Maybe if it is pure stats, you wont need so much the translations.
Nah, stats can be found on the net. I did mean actual books. But Galeano's book was more of a collection of stories, while I'm looking for factual history.
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Nah, stats can be found on the net. I did mean actual books. But Galeano's book was more of a collection of stories, while I'm looking for factual history.
buy di stefano selfbiography.

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I need books that chronicle the history of South American football. English, please.
Check out "The Beautiful Game". Forget the author's name but it's a nice little history of South America and the national team/leagues.

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i bought this book.

http://www.travessa.com.br/GIGANTES_...0-66595e03d8da




GIGANTES DO FUTEBOL BRASILEIRO
Autor: Joao Maximo | Marcos de Castro
Editora: Civilizaçăo Brasileira

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i bought this book.

http://www.travessa.com.br/GIGANTES_...0-66595e03d8da




GIGANTES DO FUTEBOL BRASILEIRO
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i found out something really funny about Garrincha in the book:


i laughed hard while reading it:


in 1958 WC
brazil hired many professionals
it was a revolution
before the coach did all
now there was physical preparator
psychologist
etc
and the psychologist applied some personality tests
and GARRINCHA FAILED
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha

thats considered one of the reasons why he was a bench

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garrincha was such an animal.

he could play like a wild cat can run fast.

but both are brainless.


garrincha only cared about alcohool and prostitutes

100% animal.

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just like every 2nd adult male. Not his fault this 40% shit flows down the neck like a water. Everyone would want to be in his shoes, world beater on pitch, celebrity off it. Every woman wanted to have a kid with him, how he, simple man, could resist ?
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Agreed.

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I know it´s kinda fashion that nowadays athletes are supposed to be role models. He was a simple man, growing up in poverty, basically a cripple noone wanted, and he still managed to become an world beater. His passion carried him through all difficulties to a top of the world, and his passion also killed him.

No need to be hard on him.
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my fav book is Magyarok nagy pályán by Iván Hegyi, about life and career and anecdotes of 50 greats, from Albert to Zsengellér

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Rsssf Football Experts and Statisticians

Inspite of using rsssf.com as a reference of my work for a long time, I overlook to discuss with their experts and statisticians. They are amatuer status and should be reachable. Now I find contact list and a brief biography of them in http://www.rsssf.com/profiles.html. I wil start to discuss with them to acquire a useful knowledge, statistics and evidence of rating to support my rating players in my series. This is useful for yous who interested in football legends as well.
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RSSSF guys dont prepare any ratings from what I know, only IFFHS do.
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great web history of football

Hello i have found a web amazing, it is about historical stats of football.
all the lineups of international matches of national teams.

<a href='http://eu-football.info'>European national football team matches database</a


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Hello tioluigi,
welcome on XT. I know that site, it´s excellent statistical source.

We have a thread dedicated to links etc. I will move your post there. Thanks for your input.
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