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All-Time Poland Squad

Poland is best remembered for their greatness in the 1970s to the early 1980s that they could qualify for World Cup four consecutive times and also won third place two times even their prospected striker like Lubanski was injury until he could not participate in WC 1974. He arguably is the best Polish footballer of all-time if not too unlucky. So, This team undoubtedly consist of most players from that era except one. Turn back to the pre-war era, There is one of the greatest players in the World and his name is Ernest Wilimowski who showed wonderful performance before his career was firstly ended due to the World War II but his performance in the post-war was still not far away from his standard. Polish clubs have never won any European trophies because of average standard of league, and this is a factor they can’t produce great legends continuously.



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Location : Southeastern Europe
European Championship Participation : 2 Times ( 2008, 2012)
World Cup Participation : 7 Times (1938, 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986 , 2002, 2006)
Achievement : 2 Times FIFA World Cup Third Place (1974, 1982)
Most Caps : Grzegorz Lato (100 Games)
Top Scorer : Wlodzimierz Lubanski (48 Goals)
The Greatest Player Ever : Kazimerz Deyna



1. Jan Tomaszewski



Date Of Birth : 9 January 1948
Position : Goalkeeper
Height : 193 cm
Major Club : LKS Lodz
Caps : 59 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978 (11 Games)
Club Honours : 1 Time Belgium Cup
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : 1974 FIFA World Cup Best Goalkeeper
1974 European Goalkeeper Of The Year
IFFHS Poland Goalkeeper of The Century
Class : Queen Bronze



2. Anotoni Szymanowski



Date Of Birth : 13 January 1951
Position : Right-Full-Back/ Sweeper
Height : 180 cm
Major Club : Wisla Krakow
Caps : 82 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978 (13 Games)
Club Honours : 1 Time Polish League
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : Wisla Krakow Greatest Player Ever
Class : Prince Silver



3. Zygmunt Anczok



Date Of Birth : 14 March 1946
Position : Left-Back
Height : 177 cm
Major Club : Polonia Bytom
Caps : 48 Games
World Cup Participation : None
Club Honours : 1 Time Polish League
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Silver


4. Jerzy Gorgon



Date Of Birth : 18 July 1949
Position : Center-Back
Height : 192 cm
Major Club : Gornik Zabrze
Caps : 55 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978 (12 Games)
Club Honours : 3 Times Polish League
5 Times Polish Cup
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Gold



5. Wladislaw Zmuda



Date Of Birth : 6 June 1954
Position : Center-Back
Height : 187 cm
Major Club : Slask Wroclaw, Widzew Lodz
Caps : 91 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986 (21 Games)
Club Honours : 3 Times Polish League
1 Times Polish Cup
International Honours : 2 Times FIFA World Cup Third Place (1974, 1982)
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Queen Bronze



6. Henryk Kasperczak



Date Of Birth : 10 July 1946
Position : Defensive Midfielder
Height : 180 cm
Major Club : Stal Mielec
Caps : 61 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978 (13 Games)
Club Honours : 2 Times Polish League
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Silver



7. Grzegorz Lato



Date Of Birth : 8 April 1950
Position : Right-Winger
Height : 175 cm
Major Club : Stal Mielec
Caps : 100 Games (45 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978, 1982 (20 Games with 10 Goals)
Club Honours : 1 Time Polish League
2 Times Polish Cup
1983 CONCACAF Champion Cup
International Honours : 2 Times FIFA World Cup Third Place (1974, 1982)
Individual Achievement : 1974 FIFA World Cup Golden Shoe
1974 FIFA World Cup All-Star
2 Times Polish League Top Scorer (1973, 1975)
2 Times Polish Sport Player of The Year (1974, 1977)
Class : Queen Silver



8. Zbigniew Boniek



Date Of Birth : 3 March 1956
Position : Left and Right-Winger/ Attacking Midfielder
Height : 181 cm
Major Club : Widzew Lodj, Juventus
Caps : 80 Games (24 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1978, 1982, 1986 (16 Games with 6 goals)
Club Honours : 1 Time Italian Series A
2 Times Copa Italia
1984 UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup
1985 European Cup
International Honours : 1982 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : 1982 Polish Sport Personality of The Year
1982 FIFA World Cup All-Star Team
1982 Bronze Ball European Footballer of The Year
1999 IFFHS Poland Player of The Century
Class : Queen Gold



9. Wlodzimierz Lubanski



Date Of Birth : 28 February 1947
Position : Striker
Height : 178 cm
Major Club : Gornik Zabrze
Caps : 75 Games (48 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1978 (5 Games and No goal)
Professional Score Record : 264 Goals/ 461 Games
Club Honours : 6 Times Polish League
6 Times Polish Cup
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : 4 Times Polish League Top Scorer
Gornik Zabrze Greatest Player Ever
UEFA Jubilee Award (Poland)
Class : Queen Silver



10. Kazimierz Deyna



Date Of Birth : 23 October 1947
Position : Playmaking-Attacking Midfielder
Height : 180 cm
Major Club : Legia Warzaw
Caps : 97 Games (41 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978 (13 Games)
Club Honours : 2 Times Polish League
1 Time Polish Cup
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : 1974 FIFA World Cup Bronze Ball
1974 FIFA World Cup All Star Team
1974 Bronze Ball European Footballer of The Year
Legia Warzaw All-Time Top Scorer
Legia Warzaw Greatest Player Ever
Class : Queen Silver



11. Ernest Wilimowski



Date Of Birth : 23 June 1916
Position : Forward
Height : 172 cm
Major Club : Ruch Chorzow
Caps : 30 Games (34 Goals) (Split into Poland and Germany)
World Cup Participation : 1938 (1 Games with 4 Goals)
Professional Score Record : 202 Goals/ 211 Games
Club Honours : 5 Times Polish League
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : Ruch Chorzow Greatest Player Ever
Class : Queen Silver



12. Jozef Mlynarczyk



Date Of Birth : 20 September 1953
Position : Goalkeeper
Height : 191 cm
Major Club : Widzew Lodz
Caps : 42 Games
World Cup Participation : 1982, 1986 ( Games)
Club Honours : 2 Time Polish League
1 Time Portuguese League
1 Time Portuguese Cup
1987 European Cup
1987 Intercontinental Cup
International Honours : 1982 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Gold



13. Adam Musial



Date Of Birth : 18 December 1948
Position : Left and Right-Back
Height : 176 cm
Major Club : Wisla Krakow
Caps : 34 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974 (6 Games)
Club Honours : None
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Bronze



14. Stanisław Oslizlo



Date Of Birth : 13 November 1937
Position : Sweeper
Height : 178 cm
Major Club : Gornik Zabreze
Caps : 57 Games
World Cup Participation : 1982 (7 Games)
Club Honours : 8 Times Polish Cup
6 Times Polish Cup
1970 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Runner-Up
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Silver



15. Pawel Janas



Date Of Birth : 4 March 1953
Position : Center-Back
Height : 185 cm
Major Club : Legia Warzaw, Auxerre
Caps : 53 Games
World Cup Participation : 1982 (7 Games)
Club Honours : 2 Times Polish Cup
International Honours : 1982 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Bronze



16. Zygmunt Maszczyk



Date Of Birth : 3 May 1945
Position : Defensive Midfielder
Height : 175 cm
Major Club : Ruch Chorkow
Caps : 36 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974 (7 Games)
Club Honours : 3 Times Polish League
1 Time Polish Cup
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Bronze



17. Robert Gadocha



Date Of Birth : 10 January 1946
Position : Left-Winger
Height : 170 cm
Major Club : Legia Warzaw
Caps : 62 Games (16 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1974 (7 Games)
Club Honours : 2 Time Polish League
1 Time Polish Cup
International Honours : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Gold



18. Miroslaw Okonski



Date Of Birth : 8 Dcember 1958
Position : Left-Winger
Height : 171 cm
Major Club : Lech Poznan, AEK Athens
Caps : 29 Games
World Cup Participation : 1974 (7 Games)
Club Honours : 2 Times Polish League
1 Time Greek Champion
4 Times Polish Cup
1 Time German Cup
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : None
Class : Prince Gold



19. Zygfryd Szoltysik



Date Of Birth : 24 October 1942
Position : Playmaking-Attacking Midfielder
Height : 162 cm
Major Club : Gornik Zabrze
Caps : 46 Games
World Cup Participation : None
Club Honours : 7 Times Polish League
6 Times Polish Cup
International Honours : 1972 Olympic Gold Medal
Individual Achievement : 1972 Polish Footballer of The Year
Class : Prince Silver



20. Teodor Aniola



Date Of Birth : 4 November 1925
Position : Forward
Height : Unknown
Major Club : Lech Poznan
Caps : 7 Games
World Cup Participation : None
Professional Scores Record : 141 Goals/ 196 Games
Club Honours : None
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : Lech Poznan Greatest Player Ever
Class : Prince Bronze



21. Ernest Pohl



Date Of Birth : 3 November 1932
Position : Foward
Height : 173 cm
Major Club : Gornik Zabrze
Caps : 46 Games (39 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1958 (5 Games with 4 Goals)
Professional Score Record : 186 Goals/ 264 Games
Club Honours : 8 Times Polish League
1 Time Polish Cup
International Honours : None
Individual Achievement : 1 Time Polish League Top Scorer
All-Time Polish League Top Scorer
Class : Prince Gold



22. Andrzej Szarmach



Date Of Birth : 3 October 1950
Position : Striker
Height : 178 cm
Major Club : Gornik Zabrze, Stal Mielec, Auxerre
Caps : 61 Games (32 Goals)
World Cup Participation : 1974, 1978, 1982 (13 Games With 7 Goals)
Professional Scores Record : 272 Goals/ 474 Games
Club Honours : None
International Honours : 2 Times FIFA World Cup Third Place (1974, 1982)
Individual Achievement : 2 Times French League Foreign Player of The Year (1981, 1982)
Class : Prince Silver



Conclusion of Squad

GK : Jan Tomaszewski, Jozef Mlynarczyk
DF : Antoni Szynamowski, Zygmunt Anczok, Wladislaw Zmuda, Jerzy Gorgon, Adam Musial, Stanisław Oslizlo, Pawel Janas
MF : Henry Kasperczak, Zygmunt Maszczyk, Grzegorz Lato, Zbigniew Boniek, Kazimierz Deyna,Teodor Aniola, Robert Gadocha, Zygfryd Szoltysik, Miroslaw Okonski
FW :Ernest Wilimowski, Teodor Aniola, Ernest Pohl, Wlodzimierz Lubanski, Andrzej Szarmach



Formation XI




Explanation of Formation

This team is almost the 1974 World Cup Poland team except Wilimowski and Boniek and if not count Anczok and Lubanski who were in the team before the injury effecting them out of the tournament. Those all are selected for thier best status in thier position in history of Polish football. and also the performance in World Cup. Boniek is selected to play as left-winger in Gadocha place and Wilimowski is set a forward to be a prolific scorer.



Manager


Kazimierz Gorski



Year Of Birth : 2 March 1921
Major Team : Poland
Major Achievement : 1974 FIFA World Cup Third Place
3 Times Greek League
1 Time Greek Cup
Individual Achievement : UEFA Order of Merit In Ruby
FIFA Gold Medal of Merit
Commander’s Cross of Polonia Restituta
Class : Prince Silver



Stadium


Warzaw National Stadium



Opened : 2011
City : Warzaw
Capacity : 55,000 Seats


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Statistics

By Decade

1930s : 1
1940s : -
1950s : 2
1960s : 3
1970s : 13
1980s : 3
1990s : -
2000s : -


By Classes

Queen : 6
Prince : 16


__________________________________________________ ___________


The Greatest Polish Footballers of All-Time

1. Zbigniew Boniek
2. Kazimierz Deyna
3. Grzegorz Lato
4. Ernest Wilimowski
5. Wlodzimierz Lubanski

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old February 5th, 2010, 17:50
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I remember 1982 team that won bronze medals at World Cup, Boniek was one of the best player on the world cup, Lato, Smolarek, Ciolek were great too.

Poland Peru 5:1


Boniek show, Poland-Belgium 3:0


3rd place game, Poland-France 3:2
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Wow those names are hard to pronounce.

Dearman you should make an Eastern European top 25 or something .

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Wow those names are hard to pronounce.
not harder than any other slavic names, only the alphabet is very confusing

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The best Poland I could see was the one that played in Olympic Games of Barcelona 92.

What a great tournament they did, a deserved silver medal. Not many of those players confirmed later though.
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The best Poland I could see was the one that played in Olympic Games of Barcelona 92.

What a great tournament they did, a deserved silver medal. Not many of those players confirmed later though.
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Wow those names are hard to pronounce.

Dearman you should make an Eastern European top 25 or something .
Sure. I first have a plan to do all-time Eastern European team for two squads soon. I now have completed all teams in this zone.
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Sure. I first have a plan to do all-time Eastern European team for two squads soon. I now have completed all teams in this zone.
--Yashin
Bessonov-Shesterynov-Lorant-Lantos
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Dzajic------------------Puskas
--------Koubala----Blokhin

It would be really hard but that's a try.

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It would be really hard but that's a try.
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On my second thought, or I may create all-time Balkan Peninsula team and Northeastern Europe team ?


Balkan Peninsula will be consist of Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece

Northeastern Europe is consist of USSR, Poland and Czechoslovakia


Hungary will not be included due to thier availability of many World's legend.

Anyway, If I do that, North zone will be better than South zone by far especially striker position.

or combination of all Eastern European nations as the first ?



How about your ideas ?
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Either or would be cool. Imho USSR and Hungary would make up the bulk of players.

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On my second thought, or I may create all-time Balkan Peninsula team and Northeastern Europe team ?


Balkan Peninsula will be consist of Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece

Northeastern Europe is consist of USSR, Poland and Czechoslovakia


Hungary will not be included due to thier availability of many World's legend.

Anyway, If I do that, North zone will be better than South zone by far especially striker position.

or combination of all Eastern European nations as the first ?



How about your ideas ?
I would make 3 separate groups:

Poland + ex-USSR

Danubian school (Czechoslovakia, Hungary) + northern Balkans (Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, Romania)

Southern Balkans (Bulgaria, Macedonia, BiH, Albania, Greece, Turkey)
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I would make 3 separate groups:

Poland + ex-USSR

Danubian school (Czechoslovakia, Hungary) + northern Balkans (Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, Romania)

Southern Balkans (Bulgaria, Macedonia, BiH, Albania, Greece, Turkey)
FSU/Poland/Czech Rep/Slovakia.

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We had a lot of bad luck in European Cups, in 2008/2009 Wisła drew three times the strongest rival as they could have (Beitar, Barcelona, Tottenham) and as I said despite it they could destroy 5-0 really good Beitar, won one time Barca 1-0 and play equal doublematch with Tottenhamm (1-1 and 1-2) they've lost with Estonian team. Anyway specially worth seeing are highlights from firstly mentioned match:

Wisla - Beitar 5-0

So with better team than then had, they couldn't beat Levadia but anyway Estonian team should thanks god for such scores - in first match which Wisła must play on stadium in Sosnowiec Estonian players scored accidental goal and Wisła couldn't draw untill 90 minute, because there was a huge thunderstorm so it's simpler task to defence score in such conditions than scoring next goals. In second match on pitch which looks like pasturage Wisła had an colosal advantage and many unscored situations when in 84 minute Levadia made use with their single occasion - freekick from 35 meters...Simply the whole this doublematch was big accident, unfortunately really expensive for us, because we've lost many coef points. Backing to 2008/2009, second of ours teams that's Legia lost two matches with quite strong rival as is FK Moscow. And Lech had great season in EL (e.g. 6-0 with Grasshoppers, 4-2 with Austria Wien) and after 2-2 at home against Udinese in EL Third Round they led 1-0 in Udine at halftime and they've lost 2-1 after goal in 93 minute...In current season we had mentioned Wisła's accident with Levadia, Polonia changed the coach before this season and it was huge mistake (now they've Jose Maria Bakero as a new coach), so lose our 14th team with good NAC Breda isn't something weird for me, 3rd Qualifying Round for Polonia was everything what I was expected from they. Of course I hoped for better scores from Legia and Lech, but unfortunately Legia only drew 2-2 after fantastic match against Brondby at home and Danish team had more scored goals on away and Legia ended own adventure with European Cups then. Danish players had maybe 2-3 good occasion to score a goal, they scored both after corner kicks, Legia was dominating the whole match and playing great technical one-touch passing football but they've finally lost this match, you can see something from this style at both goal's actions for Legia:

Legia - Brondby 2-2

So it was another painful stroke for us, because Legia was probably single team in Europe which must end own European Cup adventure with two wins and two draws in own property, they didn't lose any match but it wasn't enough to play in next round so another really good our team ended own play in Europe definitely too early. So we had only Lech on a battlefield, Poznan's team after huge win 6-1 on away with Norwegian vice-champion so they absolved second match and in a little reserve squad they lost 2-1 at home. And 4th Quals Round they've played really equal doublematch against Club Brugge, Lech beat they 1-0 at home but also they lost second match 1-0 so we had penalty shootout which decided who will go through to the Group Stage - unfortunately Lech wasted great chance to be there and the same like Legia they were knocked out EL too early.
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Shame that fu**ing UEFA has been keeping well the communism standards in our FA and they've blocked all of our government's attempts to change the hopeless authorities with Grzegorz Lato as the top of incompetence, because Poland (like Leo Beenhakker said) is sleaping football giant, but clumsiness PZPN activities have killed much from our potential for last 20 years and accept of course all from corrupt activities which totally killed almost the potential of our league, from 1990 to about 2003 everything were probably cheated, many matches, relegations, promotions, championships...Fortunately it transpired and now we can say that everything is clear, getting rid of corrupt in our league was first step to builiding stronger league and generally football in Poland. Anyway the Beenhakker's conflict with an idiot Lato and the whole PZPN activists (because this Duch guy was saying the whole truth in media about dirt and totally incompetence in Polish FA) is probably the main reason why we had so terrible Quals - both players and Leo must fight with PZPN stupidity instead of concentrate on matches in Quals, I don't want to write everything about it there because it's too long story, but for example it's gossip that before one of Polish matches Lato with our friends from PZPN came to Polish changing room totally drunk - as Leo said "I want to resign then but I don't want to leave my players in the half of Quals". Also Beenhakker said that Piechniczek, Engel, Lato, Bugdoł (all PZPN entourage) don't want to change the Polish football and put it on higher level, because they know that there is no place for they in modern view on football so they've only been keeping own positions in PZPN only for cash, so you can imagine how was the athmosfere in our team during the WC 2010 Quals and answer oneself why Poland was so bad then...PZPN did everything to dismiss Beenhakker, even if we play for this reason weak football in Quals. Of course right after communism time almost all from our Sports Associations were ate by corrupt and had communism standard but with almost from each one our government did order and made modern, clear standards there and we've already have an effects of changes before 2000 year in Volleyball (one of the best NT in world and 3rd league in Europe), Handball (2nd and 3rd places in World Cup, 4th on last EURO, good Vive Kielce scores in Champions league) or Athletics (eight medals on WC 2009, eight place in world in point classification) etc. But our the most important Sports Association, that's PZPN stayed on 1982 standards and UEFA don't allow any governments impacts on situation in PZPN, because as we've heard from they four times "PZPN is autonomous organization, independent from government, with democratic chosen authorities so government can't change any person in this Association, although someone have any court judgment and if Polish government will change authorities without PZPN agreement, Poland will not be an UEFA and FIFA member" and as you surely know even unimaginable incompetence isn't crime so PZPN authorities are something like country in country - they are completely inviolable. So here you are answer why Poland could have on good level Volleyball, Handball on probably in near future Basketball but football have stopped in 1982. Hopefully E2012 is as huge accelerator to our football development that even huge PZPN incompetence isn't the most important in this moment, because Polish league (from 2005 managed by different organization than PZPN called Ekstraklasa S.A.) with new infrastructure, new sponsors and in near future with several football academies is able to do step ahead even without any PZPN assistance.
If you know something more about situation in our football, it's my quote from other thread which is not connected with PL football so I put it there.
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Szarmach is too good to be out of ALL-time eleven. And i think that Mlynarczyk is better then Tomaszewski. That squad is freaking strong. Deyna,Boniek,Lato,Lubanski,Szarmach are Top class players. Deyna in my opinion second best EE player of all times (first Puskas). I sometimes watch old Polish matches and in '74 we have group witch Italy and Argentina and we won and go to the next round from first place. So pitty that now are playing *****s without ambition.

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Poland Squad has already been completed !! after I add five players are Oslizlo, Janas, Musial, Szoltysik, Aniola.

Anyway, Stanisław Oslizlo's picture is not obvious. Bartolomeo or any other please find the better pic for me.


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Poland Squad has already been completed !!
No, certainly not at all mate.

1) Anioła wasn't right-winger. He was typical, physically strong and good header, centre-forward/penalty-box striker. You overrate him, because he was just solid, good goalscorer ( but in very low league standard ), but obviously wasn't anything special. He isn't highly regarded in Poland. He was typical " one of a lot ".

2) Have you ever heard of Mirosław Okoński? Get totally serious that what I say: He was Polish George Best. Same as footballing great legend from Northern Ireland, he wasn't normal human ( if you know what I mean ) He was " humble differently", same as Georgie. But unfortunetely, he hadn't Best's luck...He loved life - he loved womens, parties and alcohol...But he was also out of this world, god given talent. These things, and also injuries, destroyed his career.
He usually played as a left-winger ( forwarder in formations like 4-3-3, or more rarely, as left midfielder in 4-4-2 or similar ), and sometimes as attacking midfielder. When he was just 20 years old, some top European clubs wanted him, likes of FC Barcelona, AC Milan, Real Madrid, Hamburger SV, and less notably - Paris-Saint Germain.
Some quotes from very interesting article about him ( in Polish, so I don't give you this ): Gunter Netzer, who was HSV manager at this time, in talk with Ernst Happel: " Listen, I found one player in Poland, with number 10 on a shirt". Happel, after he watched one of Okoński's games, replied to Netzer: " If you don't bring me Okoński, you don't have to bring me anyone".
He was predicted by many, not only Polish, but anyone he saw his play, as world superstar during 1980s ( he was born December 8, 1958 ). Stupid Polish communist government's regulations tells that footballer can leave Poland when he is 30 or older. Younger players must be somebody very special, to had a chance for it ( like Boniek ). In my opinion, this is the most regrettable lost in Polish football history ( if he leave Poland in 1978, he surely have to be a superstar footballer, famous throughout the world, even for short time, but always, despite his addictions ).
He had as good pace as Lato had, maybe even better, and he was phenomenal dribbler, poetry of technique. He was also incredibly creative player. He can be without any doubt at least Queen Silver in wingers thread, probably even King class! Yeah, I think that he was more talented than Boniek. FAR more talented. Same with Deyna or Lubański. Only Wilimowski could had equal god-given talent, but personally, I don't think that he had. Okoński was better. In normal terms, he had talent to be top 5 footballer in the world during whole 80s. He was very Brazilian in his playing style.
I think that, of he actually done, he should be regarded as at Prince Gold, or even Queen Bronze class winger.

It's interesting story ( 100% real )which proved his class.
In one game, during 1983/84 season, his team ( Lech Poznań ) lost 0:2 against Pogoń Szczecin at the halftime. Okoński was announced in the starting lineup, but he didn't came to the stadium. He came back in halftime, looked on result, and decided to entered on the pitch. He scored two goals, one of them after dribbled five opposing defenders with ease. He also provided one assist, and his team won 3:2. But what is amazing - he had two per mills of alcohol in his blood! When match was finished, he said: " It was waste of time. Goodbye lads, I must back to the pub and finish drink my beer". I know that sounds like a joke, it's sounds like totally impossible, but believe me, it's absolutely true.

Okoński finally srited abroad in 1986. He was only 28 years old, but he played on maybe 50-60 % of his full potential in Germany. He get agree to cross western border after send a letter to the Polish football association, where he wrote: " When do you want to make money from sell me? When I will be on an annuity? " It took effect, but wasn't easy, because of Lech supporters who didn't allowed him leave their... He was sold to Hamburger SV, where he was named second best player of Bundesliga in 1986/87 season, although, as I said before - he played on maybe 60 % of his full abilities. Such footballer he was.
On the practice, he, as a left-winger, always played against German legend Manfred Kaltz. As Okoński said: " I ridiculed him incredibly, dribbled him like a dog, with an ironic smile on my face. I just wonder that I found so many verve in myself. I just wonder how he must hate me now". ( this interview is from August 11th, 2009 ).
Kaltz always admitted that nobody was so hard to cover like Okoński was. And obviously, he played against absolute legend Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, and several other great forwards.

When you read all about Okoński and understand how great he was, I can tell you about some other great, but widely unknown for various reasons, Polish footballers.

Edit: Name off Cisowski! He changed his name from Tadeusz to Thadee, he played for French NT, and in French league. In these terms, Raymond Kopa should be regarded as Polish as well.

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I've named Okonski in the squad and named Cisowski off. It is very new story to know how great of Okonski. I never heard even his name. I also added him in classification list in top wingers list and I'd name him as Lech Poznan' greatest ever in top 50 Eastern European clubs of all-time thread which is already done the profile of 48 teams but it has to spend long time to do details in history of each club. It is also so many factors of statistics in seevral competition to rank. I have to make it reliable as possible so the series is now not clear to establish soon.


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