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post #81 of 144 (permalink) Old January 14th, 2012, 05:55
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Who are these guys dearman?

the only good ones that i have seen is Roy of the Rovers or Roy Race.

Any other fail to add anything worthwhile.

Btw, bring Dagoods back.... he is really fun and brought discussion etc... and he was funny!
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post #82 of 144 (permalink) Old January 14th, 2012, 08:14
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It is normal story you cannot remmeber them as I said they appeared for a few times and then disappeared such as moderator of Bigsoccer and some members there.


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post #83 of 144 (permalink) Old January 14th, 2012, 15:32
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I also feel that XT history forum becoming boring, in the sense of:
- Many useless thread created.
- Personal discussions who deviated the main topic.
- Missing of some notable posters like Roy, Dagoods, Kajoo & others who can make "advanced discussion".


Some suggestions:
- Put together useless thread in only one. There's many threads who talk about same topic with any difference point of analysis.
- Give to newbies a limited capacity to created threads (others posters can give them points in favor or against).


BTW, it exist the way to created a closed group, where the creator send invitations to others to discuss a topic, before opening the thread?
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post #84 of 144 (permalink) Old January 14th, 2012, 17:29
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Who are these guys dearman?

the only good ones that i have seen is Roy of the Rovers or Roy Race.
[Please don't let that "RoyOfTheRovers" ****wit start posting again!! :smileani:]
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post #86 of 144 (permalink) Old January 14th, 2012, 19:40
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You said you know more than me about Portuguese players but it is not everything to rank player. It is also depend on the reliability in method rating. Many football fan around the World know their own country players and many just rate players just for their personal preference.

As I said, I ask them but there is a processing to filter their reliability but you are not capable to think any other possibility except your judgement people in your negative side.
I will use your own style and copy paste something that I have just read written by Grinch, someone that already told you why your listings and your opinions are as reliable and accurate as those of anybody else:

(...)in the end ranking players is inevitably a matter of opinion. The only objective way to rank players would be to focus entirely on statistics and achievements, and that's a flawed method too. (...)


In my opinion your rankings denote an immense amount of work, which is in itself valuable, but they are just the opinion of one person, nothing more nothing less. Don't take yourself so seriously and you will gain more respect.

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today I was more than ready to bury the hatchet, which is why I wrote a lengthy piece on finnish football
impossible to write a lengthy piece on finnish football stop trolling dearman
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I will use your own style and copy paste something that I have just read written by Grinch, someone that already told you why your listings and your opinions are as reliable and accurate as those of anybody else:

(...)in the end ranking players is inevitably a matter of opinion. The only objective way to rank players would be to focus entirely on statistics and achievements, and that's a flawed method too. (...)


In my opinion your rankings denote an immense amount of work, which is in itself valuable, but they are just the opinion of one person, nothing more nothing less. Don't take yourself so seriously and you will gain more respect.
You are the sorriest, most petty, short spireted person I have come across XT.
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You are the sorriest, most petty, short spireted person I have come across XT.
Coming from you, any insult is music to my ears.

Keep 'em comin' bambi. :smileani:

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impossible to write a lengthy piece on finnish football stop trolling dearman
Not at all. I've read one myself. It was like the footballing equivalent of Sophie's Choice.
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I was thinking more for a tool that let me (or anybody) invite some posters to join in a close group to discuss some topic.
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Explain better, msioux, you want people to "prepare" a topic before opening to all other users?

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That does not work. The forum will become more moderated.

The thing is the moderator to either merge a thread or clsoe the thread when some retarded poster posts it.
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I was thinking more for a tool that let me (or anybody) invite some posters to join in a close group to discuss some topic.
what do you mean exactly: that this topic can only be discussed by them and is not open for other posters? Private discussion for a "clipue", I understand your suggestion like this....

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Sorry, I don't explain me well.

I had a project in mind, makes a "long-list" of the best South American players by position for every decade (each one divide into 2-3 eras). It would be like 10 players by position for each era.

Is a hardly work, and i think it would good, whether some notable posters can help (invited for me) to give a better form or methodology (discussing in a close group) before the thread will be posted to open public.

The point is many extensive/hard projects who were interesting, it dissapears for opening quickly, lack of preparation or most commonly, many threads created that repeat same thematic with any original vision.
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We would have to create a forum just for them. Not feasible. But maybe you can use blog feature.

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[Please don't let that "RoyOfTheRovers" ****wit start posting again!! :smileani:]
Hey old man, still around ? I was missing you in History Forum, too
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Hello guys, starting today I´m new FM in History Forum. I´ll do my best to keep that place interesting. My priorities will be:

1. Discussing history. No place for discussing recent events, players, teams etc. Whoever mention Messi or Cro7 will be politely redirected to WFF

2. No repetitive or generic threads. Those will be merged.

3. No one-liner replies please. If you are going to be critical towards someone´s opinion, explain why.

4. Let´s be a newbie-friendly forum. They will never be great addition to this forum when we drive them away. Can you now imagine this forum without Homes ?

5. to be added later, now I´m off to a work.

Keeping the high standard of HF isnt easy task, and I ask everyone of you to be part of a moderating team by reporting wrong stuff.

Nice day to you all
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I have one proposal :

If a newly created thread dowsnt get at least 3-5 replies within one week (number can be settled down later), such a thread will be removed/merged/whatever.

Reasoning: some posters (namely BigMatthew, StillLEarning f.e.) are opening threads which nobody care to discuss - not even thread openers alone it seems. We have forum polluted with too many threads with 0,1 or 2 replies at most.

I dont say those threads are bad. There is just too many of them. Posters (especially newbies) needs to learn a bit about timing of thread´s opening. We want to keep activity in forum, but with axtivity we mean DISCUSSION, not a flood of new and new empty threads which are bumped at the top and pushing quality discussions to the Page 2.

When someone opens a thread and dont´s post a single one post since then into that thread, it indicates to me that that person has nothing else to say about the topic, thus not being capable to discuss about thread he opened. Even if it means talking to yourself, which is in case of no interest the only way how to keep the thread alive.

Agreed ? Have your say today/tomorrow please. Say your suggestions about numbers (min 3-5 replies within 3-5-7 days ???) I will do nothing until I get Feedback from you, let´s say till tomorrow midnight. Thanks in advance.
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