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4-4-2 vs 4-3-3

4-4-2

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Abate --- Paletta --- Romagnoli --- De Sciglio
Suso --- Locatelli --- Pasalic --- Bonaventura
Lapadula --- Bacca

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4-3-3

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Abate --- Paletta --- Romagnoli --- De Sciglio
Kucka --- Locatelli --- Pasalic
Suso --- Bacca --- Bonaventura


Montella's 4-3-3 has proven to be effective on the whole, but a case could be made for 4-4-2 being a worthy alternative.

  • Lapadula is a good foil to Bacca and their styles of play compliment each other. As good as his movement and finishing are, Bacca can sometimes look a little isolated in a 4-3-3. Having Lapadula alongside him would allow him more opportunity to ghost into spaces
  • Niang is not good enough as a winger in a 4-3-3. In a more central role alongside Bacca/Lapadula he may improve
  • Locatelli alongside Pasalic/Kucka/Bertolacci has potential too. Kucka perhaps the least suitable choice as he is better suited to a 4-3-3.

The successful switch of formation against Cagliari led me to consider this, and although I don't think Montella should make a full switch to 4-4-2 as the main formation, it looks like it could be a decent alternative at the very least.
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any word on Abate's injury?
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Niang had 3 times the touches Bacca had, he actually tracks back and he should be in a role where finishing or scoring is not expected, sounds silly but his non goal/assists stats are decent
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any word on Abate's injury?
I read it's not major, he could be back within days.
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I'm not sure what we saw against Cagliari was a switch of any sorts, we just threw everything we had at them. Not that I wanna argue that point....

Good point re Bacca & Lapadula starting & complementing each other.

I do believe Montella needs to find some tactical alternatives, definitely. By now, anyone who hasn't even watched more than a handful of minutes of Milan's games this season could tell Suso will always break inside to his preferred left foot, Niang will go for the dribble 99% of the time or just try to steamroll past defenders!

I would love to see a 4-3-1-2. Building this team around Jack, from a creative standpoint, is the best bet. I trust him to deliver on assists and the occasional goal a lot more than Niang or Suso. More, he's versatile, we can change the system around him easily if say Suso or Niang are introduced for any of the forwards.

Bertolacci - Locatelli - Kucka
Bonaventura
Bacca - Lapadula

PS Honestly, what do you guys see in Pasalic? Such a lazy ineffective guy! A phantom, mostly!

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You guys still talking about Niang?😂 Forget it please.

And, oh, Pasalic has been good imo. Not really spectacular but he's doing well.
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4-3-1-2 works on paper, if Suso played behind the strikers and Jack as a mezz'ala. Suso is a must regardless - a player of his ability and form should be accommodated, more so than Bonaventura. But I think the biggest drawback with 4-3-1-2 is that our fullbacks are not good enough to provide the attacking width.

Regarding Pasalic - on the whole I think the jury is still out. On occasions he has ghosted out of games but in others he's linked up well in midfield (against Roma he combined well with Suso and impressed me). The issue is that the alternatives are not exactly special. Bertolacci seems out of sorts (perhaps needs a few more games) and Kucka has hit his glass ceiling. He won't improve.
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You guys still talking about Niang?😂 Forget it please.

Niang has been infuriating but at the same time I am beginning to feel sorry for him. At points during the Cagliari game you could almost feel his anguish, but he cannot he faulted for effort.

The difference between seeing Bonaventura and Suso on the flanks with the ball, the way they move and dribble is in a different class to Niang. He just isn't a winger, never has been.

He should either start in his natural position (in the centre) or not at all. He's strong and fast - put him up against defenders, back to goal, or making runs behind them with his pace and he's going to fare better. Problem is with a 4-3-3 he's always going to be 3rd choice. 4-4-2 would potentially revitalise his form, if anything can.
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Bertolacci - Locatelli - Kucka
Bonaventura
Bacca - Lapadula

PS Honestly, what do you guys see in Pasalic? Such a lazy ineffective guy! A phantom, mostly!
And you see something in Bertolacci???
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I trust Montella to choose the right formation. As long as the team keeps playing like this, I don't really care.
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Like some of you guys, I like bacca-lapadula upfront.
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Niang has been infuriating but at the same time I am beginning to feel sorry for him. At points during the Cagliari game you could almost feel his anguish, but he cannot he faulted for effort.

The difference between seeing Bonaventura and Suso on the flanks with the ball, the way they move and dribble is in a different class to Niang. He just isn't a winger, never has been.

He should either start in his natural position (in the centre) or not at all. He's strong and fast - put him up against defenders, back to goal, or making runs behind them with his pace and he's going to fare better. Problem is with a 4-3-3 he's always going to be 3rd choice. 4-4-2 would potentially revitalise his form, if anything can.
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Somehow I had missed this.

If we were to go for the 4-4-2, I'd actually be interested to see Niang as a RW, Bonaventura as a LW, and Suso in a free Role. I'd like to see Niang used in ways that exploit his assets, which are physical and technical. Covering lots of ground and beating his man in a straight line. IMO that might be the way to eventually get something out of him. And I'd love to see what Suso can do in a more free role. Lappadula is just a decent sub.

In practice, this would be close to a 4-2-3-1, and when needed Jack could move center and we couldgo back to 4-3-3.

----Niang----Locatelli---Pasalic---Bonaventura

--------------------Suso---------------------
-----------------Bacca---------------------

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